Not sure if we can get this sticked with the other discussion stuff thread or how to do it but this thread will be for anyone who would like to share old memories or experiences or story lines that they liked over the years. This is Schizos idea and I'm just acting off it but it does seem to be a good idea for younger fans who want to learn more about the product and have some fun at the same time. I'll bet everyone will learn at least something they never knew before or at least build on what they already know. If you want to participate, try to keep it short and not to long but do get your point or story across. Lets have fun and let it begin I say!

Ok, first up, Did you know, in the in early 90's when Sgt. slaughter turned turncoat and was feuding with Hulk Hogan over the title for awhile... he got death threats daily and had to be given protection 24 hours a day for a long time until the feud was over. Sgt. Slaughter burned the flag and supported Iraq and turned a blind eye to the American people and it caused a lot of trouble. He couldn't go nowhere without a guard posted on him and in most cases, establishments wouldn't even let him come in to eat in fear of what the customers might do. This lasted for a couple of years before people backed off. Many of times he found death notes or letters addressed to him saying they were going to kill him or get to his family or such. Pretty wild.

Coincidently, I think this was about the same time he met Richard Nixon on an airplane... Irony!

What happened there?

The story's in the WWE 'road story's' book, wasn't much of an interesting meeting.
He found out from passenger's gossiping, that Nixon was on board, then later a stewardess came up to him and said Nixon requested to meet him.
Apparently Nixon was a long time Sgt. Slaughter fan.

Already learned something new today, cool. I've never read the book but it sounds like a good one, I'll have to check it out.

death threats?? wow! thats pretty awful....

It's really not that great, most stories are quite lame. It's a skim-read!

If you think a few measly death threats are bad, you obviously havn't heard the greatest stories.
I'd like to give specific examples here, but unfortunately I have 'stoner-lapses' in my memory. Sit tight though, i'm sure some brain-waves will come along soon.

Not a problem, I deal with the same thing and it drives the wife crazy. What were we talking about...lol..just kidding. Ya, back in the day it was nothing for the wrestlers to get assulted while going to the ring by fans,/ beer bottles, knives, basically anything they could throw if the wrestler had good enough heat on them. Bar fights were the norm for a lot of them. I know sometimes fans even threw piss on the wrestlers and stuff. I wish I could remember the Dino Bravo story but it's not ringing a bell at the moment ( see, I know where your coming from) or Bruiser Brody for that matter.

bruiser brody got stabbed in the bathroom of a backstage area by Jose Huertas Gonzalez in '88.. i think...

On May 24, 1976, an angry fan at ringside in the Greenville Memorial Auditorium stabbed Ole Anderson as he left the ring.
Cornette always had to get police escorts to take him and his team to the venue, because anytime he drove his own vehical to venues in certain areas, the tyres would almost allways get slashed and would be surrounded by alot of pissed off fans, wanting to kick the crap out of them.
There are many stories like this, from back then.

True.
July 16th, 1988, Bruiser Brody was on the last day of a four-day tour of Puerto Rico. Brody was scheduled to wrestle Dan Spivey at Juan Lobriel Stadium in Bayamon, Puerto Rico. The promoters wanted Brody to do the job for Spivey. However, Bruiser Brody 'didn't do jobs'. Puerto Rican booker and enforcer Jose Huertas Gonzalez, known to wrestling fans as 'The Invader I', confronted Brody and asked Bruiser to have a conversation in the shower stall. Unbeknownst to Brody and the other wrestlers in the locker room, including Dutch Mantell, Tony Atlas, and Mark and Chris Youngblood, Gonzalez had a knife concealed under his towel. In the shower stall, a conversation ensued and screams were heard throughout the locker room. Bruiser Brody was stabbed several times by Jose Gonzalez and was down bleeding profusely in the shower stall. Ambulances were called and it took them at least an hour (Tony Atlas swears it was 2) to get to the Stadium. Bruiser Brody was taken to the hospital where after a long wait, was taken into surgury. He died on the oparating table. Unbeknownst to the Doctors, Brody had taken aspirins to ease the pain, which caused blood clotting.

thanks gd read people

This is just a random fact
Rikishi and Umaga are brothers
Yokazuna is their cousin and so is The Rock
just found out a short while ago and thought it would be something to share

Oh! that aint the half of it!
Peter Mavia, who is the Rock's Grandfather, was married to Lia Anoa'i.
Who was the Aunt of the 'Wild Samoans' Afa and Sika.
Sika is the Father of Matt Anoa'i (Rosey).
Afa is the Father of Samula Anoa'i (Samu of the 'Headshrinkers').
Afa and Sika are the Uncles of; Rodney Anoa'i a.k.a Yokozuna (Son of Junior Anoa'i), Sam Fatu a.k.a The 'Tonga Kid', Solofa Fatu Jr. a.k.a Rikishi and Eddie Fatu a.k.a Umaga (all Sons of Vera Anoa'i and Solofa Fatu).
That should clear things up!

cool!

is that sig of you ???!?

Nah! It's just some bum I paid off the street! **Note Sarchasm**

so it is you

Useless fact for ya'll;

The NWA World Heveyweight Championship has been held by 42 different wrestlers.
The longest title reign was by Lou Thez, held the title 2300days, from 27 November 1949 until 15 March 1956.
The Shortest title reign was Shane Douglas, held the title mere minutes before spiting on it and throwing it to the ground, in ECW on the 27 August 1994.
Ric Flair has held it the most times at 10.

Wow, amazing! Left for a few hours and came back to this, cool. Mattdens, you know your shit dude! For sure an MVP on this thread. Love the detail. But hey, no info here is useless...thats what this is for, to share stuff like this. A lot of people don't know stuff like this. Even little trivia is the best. Stuff like, The first time DDP was in a WWE event was when he drove the cadillac to the ring for Greg the hammer Valentine and The Honkey Tonk man at Wrestlemania back in the day or Arn Anderson and Sid had a knife altercation in the locker room in WCW that led to I believe Sid getting fired or that Stings partner that he brook into the business with was The Ultimate Warrior and they went by the name of the Dingo Warriors. Heres a good one, Back in the day when Andra The Giant would go to the pubs and drink, he would out drink everyone with ease. If he got to drunk and passed out by chance, they would just leave him there because it was impossible to move him. Stone Cold wouldn't have even gave him a run for his money!

Did you know that Andre the Giant never agreed for Hulk Hogan to body slam him before hand for their famous Wrestlemania match even though the spot was planned. Hogan wrestled the match in fear of what the giant would do to him if he tried but things worked out for the best. Thought that was kind of cool.

HERE YOU GO SCHIZO,WRESTLING FACTS -----DDP credits Bobby "The Brain" Heenen for coming up with the name Diamond cutter

"The Crippler Cross Face" was invented by Dean Malenko and not Chris Benoit.

Spike Dudley was a school teacher from Rhode Island before getting into the wrestling business

Kurt Angle's wife is a former stripper

Al Snow is well trained in martial arts, mat grappling, free style, hardcore, and shoot-fight wrestling

"Hacksaw" Jim Duggan got the idea of bringing a 2x4 to the ring from the movie, "Walking Tall"

The Rock's wife Dany is the Associate Vice President of Merrill Lynch

Dick the Bruiser actually gave Bobby Heenan the nickname "The Weasel"

Early in his career, Hulk Hogan teamed with "Dizzy Hogan" who would later be known as Brutus Beefcake

Before becoming a wrestler, Val Venis used to race motocross

Marcus Bagwell had calf implants in 1995 but they later leaked and had to be removed

Glen Jacobs (better known to the wrestling world as Kane) has degrees in English and Teaching

Former WWE announcer Craig DeGeorge is now the number one sports anchor for an NBC affiliate in Miami and now uses his given name, Craig Minnervni (Torch)

Mike Awesome and Horace Hogan are cousins (Awesome and Hulk Hogan are not related)

Two days before WrestleMania 9, Hogan was injured in a jet-ski accident. That explains the shiner he had when he wrestled at WrestleMania 9

Kevin Nash introduced Shawn Michaels to his wife, the former Nitro Girl Whisper (Rebecca Curci)

Silver King and Dr. Wagner, Jr. are brothers

The former Bart Gunn (of the Smoking Gunns) wrestles as Mike Burton for All Japan pro wrestling

When the Honkeytonk Man beat Ricky Steamboat for the IC title, he was a replacement for "The Natural" Butch Reed who was scheduled to win the gold

Stephanie McMahon works for the WWE as a accountant executive at their New York sales office

That before Mark Henry joined the WWE, he was actually sponsored by Titan Sports during the 1996 Olympic's in which he competed in the sport of weight lifting

Gorgeous George, real name Stephanie Bellars, spent jail time as a teenager for burglaziring a home and slashing a girl's face with a broken beer bottle

Eddie Guerrero's father 'Gori' invented the camel clutch

Terry Funk is Jason Hervey's Godfather

Steve 'Mongo' McMichael was one of Lawrence Taylor's backup men during his match against Bam Bam Bigelow at Wrestlemania XI

Ryan Shamrock's real name is Alesha Webb, and she is a topless dancer from Houston, TX

WWE's first pick for the Mr. Perfect gimmick was Terry Taylor

Former Freebird Jimmy Garvin is now an airline pilot

D'Lo Brown began his career as the "head of security" for the Gangstas in Smokey Mountain Wrestling? He later debuted in the WWE as one of the many members of Faarooq's Nation of Domination entourage

Nitro Girl Fyre attended Arizona State University, and used to be a mortgage home broker

The Warlord (real name Terry Szopinski) was forced to retire following a 1996 car accident

ECW's Dawn Marie appeared in the original Austin Powers MTV special as one of the go-go dancers and actually had a couple of speaking lines

Chris Chetti was the first man to graduate from ECW's School of Hardcore.

Taz and Chris Chetti are cousins

Paul Wight played college basketball at Wichita State

Nicole Bass's married name is Fuchs

Rick Rude still held half of the NWA tag titles when he signed with the WWE (the NWA later claimed that the Rock 'n' Roll Express regained those titles in a match that never actually took place).

Jerry Jarrett brought Rick Rude to Memphis, and gave him the nickname "Ravishing"

Rick Rude, for a time, was managed by his sister Raven in the World Class promotion.

Rude was the only foreign talent to make the finals of G-1 Tournament in Japan.

Rude worked as a bouncer at Gramma B's in Minneapolis before he was discovered, working with the Road Warriors and Barry Darshow.

Rick Rude was trained by Eddie Sharkey, who also trained the Road Warriors, Barry Darsow, and Nikita Koloff.

Rick Rude and Nikita Koloff attended the same high school.

The orginial Midnight Express was a six man tag team in Alabama, consisting of Dennis Condrey, Randy Rose, and Norvell Austin

Mark Henry and Pittsburgh Steeler Kevin Henry are cousins.

Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat suffered his career ending back injury in a match with Steve Austin, while they were in WCW.

The British Bulldog (Davey Boy Smith) paid the WWE $100,000 to get out of his contract to leave for WCW.

Tom "Dynamite Kid" Billington despises his cousin Davey Boy Smith so much, he can't bring himself to say his name.

Emiko Kado, 23, suffered a brain injury that ended her life in only her 15th professional match.

Bill Goldberg's father is a retired Gynecologist.

Terry Funk first announced his retirement in 1983.

Larry Zbyszko is a licensed pilot.

Debra McMichael was introduced to Steve McMichael through Steve's mother.

ECW star Justin Credible competed in the WWE as both P.J. Walker and "The Portuguese Man O' War" Aldo Montoya? He also briefly became the third member of PG-13, going by the name P.G. Walker.

HERES SOME MORE FOR YA SCHIZO----Debra McMichael was introduced to Steve McMichael through Steve's mother.

ECW star Justin Credible competed in the WWE as both P.J. Walker and "The Portuguese Man O' War" Aldo Montoya? He also briefly became the third member of PG-13, going by the name P.G. Walker.

The World Wrestling Entertainment owns the Domain www.payperview.com.

Konnan briefly appeared in the WWE as "Max Moon" in 1992. Konnan played the role of the man who hailed from "outer space" for a single WWE Superstars TV taping/

Ric Flair's children watch WWE RAW is WAR on Monday nights and only switch the channel for Flair's segments.

In 1975, Ric Flair was in a plane crash with Johnny Valentine, Bob Bruggers and "Mr. Wrestling" Tim Woods. Modern medical science said that he'd never wrestle again

From 1986-1989 Ric Flair averaged 34 minutes per-match. In that span he had 19 matches that lasted longer than 50 minutes

Chastity appeared in the adult movie 'Live Bait'

Vampiro's sister is a former Miss Nude Canada

About an estimated 20 miles of cable is needed for each Nitro show.

At the production offices of each WCW Nitro, there is one state-of-the-art Xerox machine. Around 15 reams (7,500 sheets) of paper are used per each Nitro.

Annually (every year) WCW distributes about 40,000 passes in all. About 30,000 passes for the WCW Nitro crew and other people who set the show up, 7,000 VIP passes, about 2,000 full access passes (backstage passes), and about 1,000 photo passes. Police officers and arena security as briefed before each Nitro show and told what each pass means.

About 750 light bulbs are used for each show on about 20 different lighting fixtures. The light-reading in the middle of the ring during each Nitro show is 115 foot-candles.

There are 24 different phone lines for each Nitro.

Production time takes about 34 hours from start to finish. 217 people work for the production for Nitro each week. An average WCW crew member spends about 10 hours working on the set.

The WCW Monday Nitro ring and other equipment are transported in 14 different trucks, and 10 of those are 18-wheelers. Each truck is also filled to the capacity (about 80,000 pounds). The total WCW Monday Nitro ring and all of the other equipment weighs a total of about 1,120,000 pounds. About 56,000,000 (56 million) pounds of WCW Nitro rings and equipment are transported annually.

9 huge 100,000+ thousand-dollar cameras are used for each WCW Nitro show.

There are about 15 cases of water (24 bottles per case) on hand for the crew/backstage workers and wrestlers for each Nitro telecast. About 25 gallons of coffee and about 416 cases of cola are consumed backstage at Nitro each year.

About 13,000 meals are consumed annually each year by the 250 members of the Nitro crew. Dinners are buffet-like and usually offer: chicken breasts, roast beef, 2 different vegetables, pasta, fish, salad, and at least 3 desserts. For each WCW Monday Nitro telecast, about 250 pounds of prime rib and about 250- 8-ounce chicken breasts.

There is a huge silver bowl of candy in the Nitro Production Office. There are about $150 worth of candy in the bowl. Candies contain anything from chocolates, Tootsie Rolls, Mounds, 100 Grands, 3 Musketeers, Milky Way, Snickers, lollie pops, and so on.

Egg whites and deviled eggs are also available backstage.

About 5,200 black WCW Monday Nitro Crew T-shirts are distributed every year. The wrestlers on Nitro receive a new one backstage prior to each Nitro telecast. They range in size from medium to 6X.

2,392 rental cars are used annually for WCW Monday Nitro.

About 140 hotel rooms are needed per every Nitro show for the wrestlers, Nitro crews, backstage workers, and other people. Some wrestlers go to other separate hotels to stay over-night.

The WCW staff contacts locals in need of errands for each Nitro. Things such as mannequins, flowers, tables, stools, clothes, hats and everything else is purchased often and is used to fit the right storyline.

WCW purchases about 180 airline tickets for WCW wrestlers, crew, and other front-office workers and managers for each Nitro show. Their main customer is Delta Airlines. About 9,360 airline tickets are bought annually for each Nitro show.

There are about 400 backstage cabinets at Nitro to store different things.

About 300 fireworks are used for each telecast. That equals more than 10 pounds of explosives.

WCW’s favorite arenas in which to host Nitro at are 1.) MCI Center, 2.) United Center (WCW hires a local caterer to provide food for the wrestlers when they come to the United Center), 3.) Baltimore Arena, 4.) Norfolk Scope, 5.) FleetCenter. An arena is decided good or not if Nitro can move in and out quickly and painlessly.

Each ring for each Nitro show weights about 2 tons. Mat covers are replaced about 60 times a year (because they can’t be washed).

Andre the Giant drank 14 bottles of wine before his match with Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania 3.

Kevin Nash play's Super Shredder in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2.

Saturn dated Chyna before she entered the WWE.

The Rock's first character in the WWE was Flex Cavana. He only wrestled under that name once.

Rocky Maivia is a skilled light tackle salt water fisherman.

The Peoples Eyebrow was first named the "Heat Brow". The Rock called it that in college, but he changed the name do to the fact that the name didn't catch on.

The Rock is the Youngest Intercontinental, and World Heavyweight Champion ever in the WWE. He is also the first African American to hold the WWE Championship.

Buff Bagwell, before becoming a wrestler was a model, exotic dancer and acted in a few Soft Porn flicks.

17 months is the age gap between the Steiner Brothers

Melanie Pillman had a relationship with the Ultimate Warrior before she met Brian.

Leatherface caused the scar on Mick Foley's left arm.

Hulk Hogan earned 1.8 million dollars with his match up against Randy Macho Man Savage at Wrestlemania 5.

Shawn Michaels is a huge Garth Brooks fan.

Shawn Michaels and Marty Jannetty won the WWE tag team title from Bret Hart and Jim Neidhart in October of 1990 at a taping for Saturday Night's Main Event. Neidhart had been fired and was filling contractual obligations, which including jobbing the tag titles to another team. In what should have been a minor point, the top rope broke at one point during the match. The Rockers defended the titles for a week after that, but then Neidhart was re-hired by the WWE, and Vince McMahon decided that the title change never actually happened, in one of the goofier decisions of the 90s, and one of many to affect the careers of Shawn and Bret. As an explanation, a story was sent to Pro Wrestling Illustrated about the rope break causing an "unfair working environment" for both teams, and hence the title reign was annulled. This was simply to cover up for the fact that they reported the title change as fact a week prior and needed a reason to no longer report it as such. The title change was edited out of the Main Event broadcast, and thus went down in history that the Rockers never had the belt.

These will keep ya going. Some may be a little out dated but all facts non the less. Hope you enjoy them, bet you learn something new that you didn't know before.-------- Vader knows how to play the Piano.

Sgt. Slaughter's character was portrayed in the cartoon G.I. JOE.

The New Age Outlaws cross their arms above their heads as an alternative for younger fans to do the crotch chop.

Road Dogg fought in Desert Storm.

Before becoming a wrestler, Val Venis used to race Motocross

Tully Blanchard and Ted Dibiase are both preachers across the United States.

Ted Dibiase and Nikita Koloff attend the same church in North Carolina.

Honky Tonk Man and Jerry Lawler are cousins.

Dynamite Kid left the WWE because he got into a backstage brawl with former Quebecer Jacques Rougeau.

Ric flair actually OWNED the WCW world title belt itself up until 1991, as he originally bought it for use by the company using his own money!

WCW paid Ric Flair $75,000 to give back the WCW title after he had departed to the WWE in 1991.

Ahmed Johnson played in the NFL for the Dallas Cowboys.

Faarooq aka Ron Simmons was cut by the Cleveland Browns.

Steve Austin was trained by current WCW jobber Chris Adams.

Steve Austin learned the art of the interveiw from Brian Pillman. Austin has admitted numerous times that his speaking ability was perfected by Brian Pillman who constantly gave him pointers and advice.

Steve Austin is an antique collecter.

An Austin shirt is sold every 45 seconds around the world.

Terri Runnels was a hair stylist for the Larry King show prior to wrestling.

Ultimate Warrior was the original spokesman for Slim Jim.

Bill Goldberg, Raven, DDP, Dean Malenko, and Barry Horowitz are all jewish.

Raven was a manager in the WWE that went by the name Johnny Polo. Under this name he managed the Quebecers and Adam Bomb.

D’Lo Brown is a certified accountant.

Sunny aka Tammy Sytch is the most downloaded celebrity in AOL history.

Tom Pritchard aka Zip and Brother Love are brothers.

Shane Douglas and Paul Orndorff are cousins.

Duane Gill and Barry Hardy made up the team called The Executioners in the WWE in the early 90s.

Undertaker was brought to the WWE by Brother Love.

Brian Lee (Chainz) was the best man at Mark Callaway's (The Undertaker) wedding

In the RAW tag team tournament of summer 1997 in the WWE, Jerry Lawler teamed with Rob Van Dam.

Rob Van Dam debuted in the WWE against Matt Hardy.

Rob Van Dam has an unique weightlifting record of doing a split across two benches and lifting a 200 lbs Dumbbell, the lift is called the Van Dam Lift and was actually invented by Rob himself! The move is also officially recognised.

All Japan Pro Wrestling hasn't fed it's fans a count-out or a disqualification in over five years.

Road Warrior Animal and Japan veteran Johnny Ace are brothers.

Legion of Doom is the only tag team in wrestling history to hold the AWA, NWA, and WWE tag titles.

Hawk, Animal, the Spoiler, and Jake Roberts were the original members of the Legion of Doom.

Cowboy Bill Watts came up with the idea of the Road Warriors using face paint.

Gangrel and Luna are married

Jerry Lawler and the Kat are married

Glen Jacobs (kane) was born in spain



Da da da da dats all folks!

Some of these facts are out of date. Kat and Lawler are divorced. She grew too old for him.

thumper did u get most of these off wrestlezone.com ???

i know ur source

Wrestler deaths,... got this off Wrestlezone.com if anyone is interested.


Date Who How Age
12/16/17 Frank Gotch Uremic Poisoning 39
08/25/50 Earl Caddock Dies at home 62
05/??/71 Curtis "Spike" Peterson Fractured neck in a bout with Sam Abraham, dies in Richland Center, WI. ??
07/??/51 Jeanette Wolf Dies following tag match. 18
06/??/58 David Von Erich Dies on operating table while being treated for brain tumor. ??
??/??/59 Jack Von Erich Jr. Electrocution 7
12/26/63 "Gorgeous" George Wagner Heart Attack 48
01/16/65 Yukon Eric Suicide with a .22 calibur pistol after a match in GA. 41
08/07/66 Ed "Strangler" Lewis Dies at home in Muskogee, OK. ??
09/23/67 Stanislaus Zybysko Dies at home in Missouri. 88
07/02/69 "Iron" Mike DiBiase Heart Attack in ring following match with Man Mountain Mike in Lubbock, TX. ??
06/16/71 Alberto Torres Dies at Immanuel Hospital in Omaha, NE, as a result of injuries suffered six days earlier. ??
Hercules Cortez Car accident in Minnesota ??
06/03/73 Dory Funk Sr. Dies at home in Amarillo, TX. 54
02/20/75 Bobby Shane Plane Crash ??
08/19/75 Jim Londos Heart Attack 78
??/??/78 ?? David Von Erich's infant daughter dies. ??
06/30/79 Chris Taylor Dies at home in Story City, Iowa. 29
06/13/82 High Chief Peter Maivia Dies of cancer in Hawaii. 47
10/12/83 The Grand Wizard Dies in sleep from Heart Attack at home in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. 54
02/10/84 David Von Erich Dies in sleep from acute enteritis in Tokyo, Japan. 25
05/??/84 Vince McMahon Sr. no cause known ??
08/02/84 Argentina Apollo no cause known ??
01/21/85 Eddie Graham Self-inflicted gunshot wound 55
03/08/85 Bull Curry no cause known 70
05/04/85 Dan Shocket Cancer 35
09/01/85 Jay Youngblood Ruptured spleen and 3 Heart Attacks. 30
11/01/85 Rick McGraw injuries sustained in the ring? 30
02/04/86 Gino Hernandez Cocaine overdose athome in North Dallas, TX. 29
03/24/86 Warren Bockwinkel Alzheimer's disease 74
04/06/86 El Solitario Heart Attack suffered two weeks prior. 40
??/??/87 Ann Gunkel Cancer 50
04/12/87 Mike Von Erich Suicide by overdosing on Placidyl 23
08/24/87 Malcolm "King Kong" Dirk Dies during a match with Shirley Crabtree. ??
07/04/88 Adrian Adonis, Pat Kelly, and Dave McKigney Mini-van goes over a cliff killing the 3 of them, Mike Kelly survived. ??
07/17/88 Bruiser Brody Stabbed to death in dressing room prior to match. ??
09/06/88 Leroy Browm no cause known 38
09/09/88 Leroy McGuirk Dies at home. 78
02/18/89 Midred Burke no cause known 73
03/07/89 Paul Boesch Dies at home in Texas. 76
09/07/89 "Argentinian Bull" Eduardo Perez Dies at home in Tampa, FL. 61
12/07/89 "Haystacks" Calhoun Dies from bout with Diabetes. 55
01/07/90 Bronko Nagurski Dies at nursing home in MN. 81
02/04/90 "Whipper" Billy Watson Dies at home in Orlando, FL. 74
02/15/90 Mark Tendler Dies two days after being shot outside a bar he owns in Wading River, NY. 55
04/18/90 Gorry Guerrero Dies in El Paso, TX. ??
08/16/90 Pay O'Conner Cancer 65
12/31/90 Ed "The Bull" Gantner Kidney disease, first thought as suicide. 31
06/30/91 Heart Failure 70
08/25/91 Vivian Vachon and her daughter, Julie Head-on collision in Montreal. 40
09/12/91 Chris Von Erich Suicide with 9mm pistol. 21
10/31/91 Gene Anderson Heart Attack 58
11/10/91 Dick the Bruiser Afflis Dies while lifting weights 62
12/27/91 Wilbur Snyder Heart Failure 62
02/07/92 "Mad Dog" Buzz Sawyer Dies at home in Sacramento, CA. 32
02/19/92 Tojo Yamamoto Suicide with .25 calibur automatic pistol 65
04/20/92 Jimmy Lennon Sr. Heart Failure 79
06/26/92 Buddy Rogers Dies four days after suffering two strokes in Ft. Lauderdale, FL. ??
06/30/92 Stan Frazier, a.k.a. Uncle Elmer Diabetic Complications 54
09/24/92 Roy Heffernan Heart Atack in Sydney, Australia 67
01/27/93 Andre Rousimoff, a.k.a. Andre the Giant Heart Attack while at his father's funeral in France. 46
02/18/93 Kerry Von Erich Suicide with a .44 calibur handgun, one day after being indicted for cocaine possession 33
03/11/93 Dino Bravo Murdered Gangland style while sitting at home in Laval, Quebec. 44
03/25/93 Wally Karbo Heart Attack 77
06/14/93 Don Kent Leukemia 61
10/26/93 Oro Dies in ring from brain anuerism ??
11/13/93 Rufus R. Jones Heart Attack while hunting 60
12/13/93 Larry Cameron Heart Attack during a bout in Germany. 41
01/14/94 Sam Menacker Dies in Illinois 79
03/??/94 Ronnie Etchinson Natural causes ??
03/09/94 Eddie Creatchman Heart Attack in Montreal 66
05/23/94 Ray Candy Heart Attack in Decatur, GA. 43
07/04/94 Joey Marella Automobile accident in Burlington, NJ. 30
09/01/94 Boris Malenko Cancer 61
11/23/94 Art Barr Drug-related causes 28
01/22/95 Jerry "Crusher" Blackwell Complications from pneumonia 45
02/18/95 Eddie Gilbert Heart Attack 33
03/20/95 John Studd Liver cancer after 17-month battle with Hodgekin's disease. 46
05/10/95 Ilio DePaulo Struck by a car 68
10/02/95 John Ayres Liver Cancer 42
12/04/95 Little Beaver Emphysema 61
05/05/96 Ray Stevens Heart Attack 60
06/15/96 Dick Murdoch Massive Heart Attack 49
07/23/96 Herb Abrams Drug Overdose ??
08/23/96 Neil Superior Altercation with Police 33
09/10/96 Juanita Wright, a.k.a. Sapphire Heart Attack 61
01/03/97 Rick Martello not known 38
02/07/97 "Bulldog" Bob Brown not known ??
03/01/97 Frank "Gorilla" Marconi not known ??
03/24/97 Dr. Bill Miller not known ??
06/30/97 Larry O'Day not known 53
06/??/97 Stan Stasiak Heart Attack 60
08/15/97 Plum Mariko Head Trauma diring a match 29
08/31/97 Dale Lewis Leukemia ??
09/11/97 Fritz Von Erich Cancer and a Brain tumor 68
10/05/97 Brian Pillman Heart Attack from Medicine Reaction 36
01/??/98 Juanita McMahon no cause known ??
01/25/98 Bobo Brazil no cause revealed yet 73
02/15/98 Louie Spicolli Asphyxiation due to painkillers and alcohol 27
06/02/98 Junk Yard Doga Car Accident 45
06/29/98 Jose Rivera Lukemia 45
08/17/98 Brian Hauser Shot by Cops 23
01/31/99 Giant Baba Liver Failure 61
02/25/99 Rick Wilson Suicide 33
04/20/99 Rick Rude Heart Attack 39
5/23/99 Owen Hart Fell from Rafters 34
9/8/99 Brian Hildebrand Cancer ??
9/9/99 Naoko "Jackie" Satoh Stomach Cancer 41
10/6/99 Robert "Gorilla Monsoon" Marella Complications from a recent heart attack. He was also suffering from complications from diabetes. 62
11/27/99 Hiro Matsuda Cancer ??

No, actually I didn't, but I checked it out a second ago after reading what you asked. Pretty cool site. I got most of my stuff from prowrestling.com.

Jerry likes his puppies young, who doesn't? I read where Lawler has even had a few face lifts in the past to keep a more youthful look to attract the younger women. Maybe he's like the Joan Collins of men or something

Why Lou Thesz Never Liked Buddy Rogers

By Lou Thesz

It has been no secret over the years that there was a great deal of animosity between Buddy Rogers and Lou Thesz. Rogers has passed away, so there�s no way to get his side of the story, but in his book Hooker this is how Lou Thesz says it all started.

�My quarrel with Rogers dated back to a single incident occurring during my Army days, shortly before I was discharged. I was on a two-week furlough and had lined up some wrestling dates in the St. Louis territory. Rogers, who wasn�t yet wrestling his rough style, was the top attraction in the territory at the time, and we were scheduled to wrestle the main event on my very first night back, in Louisville, Kentucky. Since I didn�t have any transportation, Rogers met me at the train station in St. Louis and I hopped in his car.

As we were driving to Louisville, Rogers started talking about what we could expect that night. He was a very hot card, and since I was well-known to fans as a two-time world champion, it looked like a sell-out, a good payoff for both of us. Then he started bitching.

�The promoter has even brought in Ed Lewis to referee our match,� he said. �Why do we need that fat old bastard? The money they�re paying him should be going in our pockets."

I stared at Rogers for a couple of moments before asking him what he had been doing before he broke into professional wrestling. He said he�d been a cop in New Jersey.

�Let me tell you something, kid,� I said. �If it wasn�t for Ed Lewis you�d still be walking a beat. None of us would be making any money at this if he hadn�t paved the way. Don�t ever talk that way, in front of me or anyone, about the man who�s (sic) the foundation of our industry � it�s disrespectful. What�s more, he�s a very dear friend of mine.�

Rogers could see that he�d screwed up, and tried to recover by insisting that he was kidding, but I wasn�t buying it. He�d said enough to make me uneasy about trusting him.

So we got to Louisville and I sat down with the promoter. The logical progression, since I was still in the Army, would have been for Rogers to win. He was the big draw, and a win over me would have only made him hotter at the box office. If Rogers hadn�t made those comments about Ed Lewis, I might have gone along with it. I had learned to live with the success Rogers had been give while so many of us worked hard for a sport we loved. But the knowledge of his contempt for Ed and true wrestlers was more than I could tolerate.

I wouldn�t let Rogers win, and he certainly couldn�t beat me, so he had no alternative but to go along with whatever I wanted to do. At least that was some satisfaction for me. We ended up wrestling a one-hour draw, and I really turned on the gas, just to punish him. I talked to him in German throughout the match, telling him to hurry up, go faster, setting a pace that had him breathing hard before we were halfway though. He was absolutely drained by the end.

Buddy Rogers and I were to wrestled many more times in the coming years, always as the main-event attraction, and we made an awful lot of money together. One thing fans never saw in any of those matches though, was Buddy Rogers with his hand raised at the end � I never let him win, just on principle. A fan of his put together a Buddy Rogers record book several years ago, and it listed close to 50 Thesz-Rogers matches, every one of them ending in either a draw or a Rogers loss. (What the record book doesn�t reveal is whether the matches were any good, but I can tell you, simply by looking at the results. If the match was a draw, it was almost always a good match; if I was the winner, however, Rogers wouldn�t put any effort into it, cheating the fans of any flair or excitement, and that only served to make me angrier with him than I already was.)

In later years I realized that every industry has its equivalent of Buddy Rogers � someone who reaches the top but never understands the objective. Buddy and I finally made peace a few years before his death in 1992, but it�s hard to forget all that happened between us. Life turns on some funny points, and who knows what Rogers� career would have looked like if he hadn�t made that crack to me about Ed Lewis.�

This story was take directly from Lou Thesz' book, Hooker. The book has over 200 pages filled with stories about every wrestler from Frank Gotch to Ric Flair. Found this and thought it was pretty cool. Interesting stuff!

Great post. Great story. I must, must get a copy of that book.

Ken Shamrock Vs. the Nasty Boys / Heres another story I thought was really interesting to say the least!

By Frank Dusek

I wasn't in the motel when the fight happened. I was running South Atlantic Pro Wrestling at the time so it was my responsibility to find out what happened.

Ken was in bad shape and left soon after the incident to recover. He never had too much to say about the entire affair. He took one whale of a beating. His head was swollen to the point that it almost didn't look human. His entire face was a mass of purples, greens and shades of yellow.

According to the Nasty Boys, the trouble started over a girl. After a show, Ken went to the Nasty's room to "have it out" with Knobs. Knobs was in bed when Ken knocked so Saggs answered the door. According to them, when they opened the door, Shamrock burst into the room and jumped onto Knobs, beating the daylights out of him. If I remember right, Knobs did have a black eye and some swelling the next day.

It has always struck me as odd that a man as accustomed to fighting as Ken Shamrock obviously is, wouldn't take into consideration the fact that his opponent's partner might not just stand by and let his friend take a butt whipping.

According to the Nasty Boys, Saggs joined the fray and the two quickly got the better of a much smaller Ken Shamrock than the one in the WWF today.

Just like Shamrock, the Nasty Boys aren't strangers to fighting and once they got Shamrock down they smelled blood they went into a blind rage. Shamrock lost consciousness as the Nasties continued their assault on the prone Shamrock putting the boots to his head and face.

All the commotion brought out Robert Fuller who was staying in the same motel. It was Fuller and the Pit Bulldogs (Rex & Spike) that talked the Nasty Boys out of throwing the unconscious Shamrock off the balcony to the cement walk below.

I don't know if Ken Shamrock and the Nasty Boys have been on the same card since this happened, but I would hate to be in the way the first time they met.

I doubt either Ken Shamrock or the Nasty Boys have forgotten.

Frank Dusek is a second-generation wrestler from one of the most famous wrestling families ever. He had a solid career as a wrestler and later managed several wrestlers to major titles. He also spent time as a broadcaster, promoter and matchmaker. His first memories of the wrestling business are selling programs for his father when he was 4 years old

Roddy Piper Goes Alligator Hunting / Hers another great story I found on the web by Frank Dusek, this would have been funny to see go down in person.

By Frank Dusek

I was wrestling in Florida in the 1984. My regular traveling companions were "Big Nasty" Angelo Mosca, Kevin Sullivan and a referee by the name of Bill Alfonso. On this occasion, Mosca had gone home to Canada to take care of some business. To help support the cards in Nasty’s absence, Eddie Graham brought in Rowdy Roddy Piper for a few dates.

On the way to Miami from Tampa there are literally miles and miles of canals, all filled will alligators. Piper had decided that he wanted to bag one of these gators to make himself a belt and a pair of boots. On a semi-deserted stretch of highway we sighted a potential target and pulled off the road.

Across the black water of a canal was a gator about six-feet long. Since alligator hunting is illegal, I won’t say who actually fired the shots, but it was clear that at least two hit the mark. The gator just floated there, 20 feet from where we stood. All that was left was to retrieve the trophy.

Kevin Sullivan said that he had read that pearl divers in the Pacific would slap the water to keep the sharks away while their partners dove for pearls. Sullivan said he would go into the water and slap it if Piper would retrieve the dead alligator.

Both Piper and Sullivan stripped to their tights (a lot of planning had gone into this since both wore their wrestling tights under their clothes). Sullivan entered the water to about his waist and began to slap the surface. Understand that the water in these Florida canals is as black as midnight. There’s absolutely no way to see anything more than a few inches below the surface.

Piper followed Sullivan into the water and began to wade toward the "dead" alligator. Just as Piper reached the level where he would have to stop wading and start swimming the worst of all possible things happened. The alligator moved. Not only did it move it began to swim and then disappeared under the water.

I won’t claim it was a miracle, but I did see two mortals "walk on water" that day as both Kevin Sullivan and Roddy Piper made their way, rather quickly, out of that canal.

Needless to say, Piper didn’t get the hide for his belt and boots, go figure!

Wrong Guy to Double-Cross/ This one is great guys, I laughed my ass off on this one, and i bet you will to

By Frank Dusek

Sandor Szabo was another great European champion before winning the World title.

My father, Wally Dusek, wrestled his first match for a promoter named Gus Karras at the tender age of 16. Soon after that first ring experience, he left his Missouri home, hopped a freight train and traveled south to join the circus. For the next two years he traveled across America, flying aerobatics and daredevil stunts during the day and wrestling "all comers" on the midway at night.

My father was also accomplished as a shooter or a hooker. He wrestled in the days when part of the criteria for holding a championship was to be able to protect it in case you were in a situation where an ambitious opponent or promoter tried to steal the title.

After spending 62 years in the wrestling business (35 as a wrestler and 27 as a road agent for Jim Crockett Promotions), my dad had lots of stories. Of all the tales he told me, this is my favorite. It involves a band of gypsies, a drunken goat, a Bulgarian king and a broken ankle.

Big money as European champ, even by today's standards...

At the height of the Great Depression my dad was one of the biggest stars in wrestling and the reigning European champion. Living in Paris, he wrestled across Europe, often times commanding purses of as much as $3500 per night. That was more money than the president of the college in his hometown made in a year!

On one occasion he was booked to defend the European title against the champion of Bulgaria in the Bulgarian capitol of Sofia. He arrived a few days early to do some pre-match publicity and acclimate himself to the Black Sea climate.

One evening, using a combination of broken French and English, he was able to make a taxi driver understand that he wanted to find a place to have a few drinks. On this fateful night, that taxi driver took my dad to a gypsy camp that was set up on the outskirts of town.

After giving the driver a big tip and the promise of another generous gratuity when he returned to pick him up, my dad headed on his night of entertainment.

The smell, he said, reminded him of his circus days. Sanitation had not been the main concern when the gypsies had pitched the tents and erected the shacks that made up the homes and businesses of this temporary city.

At the center of the camp, bordered by two massive bonfires, was a long picnic-style table. He took a seat on the bench and before long the wine was flowing. As daylight ebbed, the town’s people arrived and the party began in earnest.

The night air was alive with the sounds of music and laughter. Raven-haired beauties, strange and exotic, danced on the tables, their long, colorful skirts spinning dizzily in the night.

You haven't partied until you've partied with a goat...

As he sat, taking it all in, my dad felt a nudge at his elbow. There, standing beside him was the nastiest, smelliest goat that ever existed. Now my dad grew up in Missouri where they know a thing or two about stubborn creatures, so you can take his word for it when he said this was definitely one for the record books.

Every time my dad took a drink, the goat would use his head to give him a not-so-gentle nudge.

Finally, he was made to understand, "buy the goat a drink." He said he thought for a moment then figured, "what the hell." He bought the goat a drink.

While this was the first time my dad had ever drank with a goat (or at least the only time he would admit to me); this wasn’t the goat’s first rodeo. As soon as the bottle of wine was set on the table before him, the goat settled in and made himself comfortable. The goat sat propped his swollen belly on the bench where everyone else sat and put his callused elbows on the table. He then took the bottle between his hooves and turned it up to drink.

I once asked my dad what was going through his mind as he sat there on the shores of the Black Sea, getting drunk with a goat. He said that about the only thing he could remember thinking was that "no one back home will ever believe this!"

Dad said that the goat was just about the best drinking partner that he ever had. The goat never did pass out. He listened intently to everything my dad had to say, and, despite the fact that they got falling down drunk together, they never did get into a fight!

Dad’s only complaint about the goat was that he never did buy a round. But be assured that if my dad bought a round for himself and didn’t include the goat, there would be a firm nudge from his new "best friend."

At the appointed time the taxi driver returned. The last my dad saw of him, the goat was half-walking, half-crawling off in one direction while my dad half-walked, half-crawled off in the other direction.

It was more fun hanging out with the goat...

A couple of days later, the match was SRO. Over 40,000 people, including the country’s monarch, King Boris, jammed into the municipal stadium.

Despite the best plans, the outcome of matches in those days was sometimes decided in the ring. Double-crosses were rare, but they did happen. Champions had to be wary of situations where an opponent might not cooperate. Wrestlers would "give" an opponent a hold, but never a good enough hold to hurt or beat them. In other words, they never gave an opponent anything they couldn’t take away.

This was one of those matches. After a fall each, my dad realized that the Bulgarian champion was shooting for the win. They were going to try and steal the European title from my dad. After several minutes he got an ankle lock similar to the one used by Ken Shamrock on the Bulgarian. Rather than risk injury, the Bulgarian gave up. Or so it seemed.

Suddenly there was mass confusion in the ring. The Bulgarian champion and his representatives were frantically talking with the referee and the judges. Soon it became crystal clear. The local promoters didn’t want their boy to lose, especially in front of their king. They claimed that their man had not given up.

There were 40,000 screaming fans in the stands and the only two people who spoke English were my dad and a representative from the American Consulate. What choice did they have? The match continued.

It took another 15 minutes or so, but my dad finally got the same move from the other side. It seems no one had counted on his ability to wrestle equally well from the left or the right side.

This time, when the Bulgarian champion "gave up" my dad leaned forward one final time until he heard the sick snap of an anklebone.

There would be no doubt as to who was the winner this time!

Harley Race defends against Ted DiBiase / Thought this one was interesting as well, some really neat insite on history!
It was the beginning of the end of the glory days for St. Louis wrestling.

About a year before venerable St. Louis promoter Sam Muchnick retired, he put together a masterpiece for a packed house at the St. Louis Checkerdome.

Missouri state heavyweight champion Ted DiBiase culminated a year long chase of Harley Race and the NWA World heavyweight championship with a final showdown in St. Louis' biggest venue.

The quest to get this title match was nearly as difficult as winning the title itself.

DiBiase actually pinned Race in a title match in St. Louis earlier in the year, only to have the decision reversed and see Race be declared the winner by disqualification.

DiBiase then saw Nature Boy Ric Flair make a St. Louis assault on Race in a match that ended in a time limit draw.

DiBiase claimed to be the number one contender for the World title because he was the Missouri state champion and had actually pinned Race in a title match.

Flair disputed DiBiase's claim. Flair said that DiBiase's pin didn't count and that DiBiase had actually lost to Race because the official decision in the record book had Race winning by disqualification. Flair furthered his claim by stating that he was the one that Race couldn't beat, since Flair and Race had gone to an hour draw..

To get this title match, DiBiase had to successfully defend his state title against Flair a few weeks earlier in a match.

A lot of experts considered DiBiase the man that would win the World title from Race and thought this would be his ascension to the throne.

Instead, Race turned back DiBiase and kept the belt.

But Race's days were numbered as champion.

Ironically, it would be the semifinal event that would produce the men that would unseat Race.

Dusty Rhodes and Flair were on opposite sides of the tag team semifinal. Flair teamed with Ken Patera while Rhodes sided with St. Louis legend Dick the Bruiser.

Only 9 days later, Rhodes would beat Race to capture his second NWA World heavyweight championship. About three months later in Kansas City, Flair would beat Rhodes and begin his domination of the World title.

Other future champions on the bill were Jack Brisco and Kerry Von Erich.

Ironically, DiBiase, while being considered one of the greatest wrestlers of his era, never held the World title.

I guess not everbody has a price for the millon dollor man.

Steven Rossi originally wrote this tribute and is credited for this

(Originally published 2/15/03) Louie Spicolli had a good future ahead of him, thought I would share this story as I remember him foundly. Hope you enjoy this history on his career.
Today marks the 5 year anniversary of Louie Spicolli’s death. His passing was ignored by the WWF and virtually mocked by WCW (particularly by Larry Zbyszko). Spicolli never became a huge star and most wrestling fans will never celebrate him the way they do Owen Hart, Brian Pillman, Rick Rude, or Curt Hennig, but let’s spend some time today remembering Louie Spicolli.

Louie Spicolli was born Louis Mucciolo on 2/10/71 in Los Angelos, CA. As a child, he idolized Roddy Piper for his mic work and Bret Hart for his in-ring ability. While attending a card at the L.A. Sports Arena, he met wrestler Bill Anderson, who had trained the Ultimate Warrior and Sting, and convinced Anderson to train him as well. He took the name Louie Spicolli (after Sean Penn’s character in Fast Times at Ridgemont High). Within 3 months of beginning his training, Anderson got him booked as a jobber in the WWF when he was only 18. In his first match ever, Spicolli lost to Ron Bass at a WWF TV taping in Duluth, MN. Spicolli would reamin in the WWF as a jobber from 1988-1993.

Anderson took him to Tijuana with him in 1989 and they formed Los Mercenarios Americanos with Tim Patterson (the original Leatherface). On 4/29/89, they captured the WWA Trios titles by beating Zandokan, Sicodelico, and Khaos I. They dropped the straps to Chavo, Mando, and Eddy Guerrero before quickly winning them back a second time.

Spicolli wrestled 2 matches for the AWA in 1990. He then joined Herb Abrams’ UWF using the nickname “Cutie Pie” and he got his first opportunity to cut promos. Spicolli began to wrestle in the Arizona indies and won his first singles on 3/8/91 by beating Steve Gatorwolf for the AWF Heavyweight belt. He lost the title back to Gatorwolf only 4 days later. Spicolli, Anderson, and Patterson finally lost the WWA Trios titles to Ultraman 2000 (Damian 666), Kiss, and Aguila de Americano on 12/20/91, ending their 2 and a half year reign.

In ‘92, Spicolli wrestled Eiji Ezaki (Hayabusa) on a joint AAA-FMW card. FMW head Atsushi Onita was impressed and hired him. Spicolli was brought to Japan and wrestled Onita in several barbed wire matches. That FMW stint didn’t last long as several months later he was fired after Sabu told Onita that Spicolli had urinated in a bottle on a bus after the driver refused to stop for him.

Spicolli returned to the Arizona indies and was awarded the IWF Heavyweight title on 12/15/92, losing it 3 months later to Steve O. On 2/8/93, he made his only Monday Night Raw appearance under that name when he teamed with 2 other jobbers in a loss to Yokozuna in a handicap match. Spicolli made a few SMW appearances, feuding with Chris Candido.

He lost to the 1-2-3 Kid during the Kid’s WWF tryout match. The Kid was hired as a result but Spicolli wasn’t offered a full-time job. Konnan, who Spicolli had befriended while he was wrestling in Tijuana, offered him a spot in AAA and Spicolli, upset that the WWF hadn’t signed him to a contract after 6 years of jobbing for them, left the WWF entirely. He wrestled as both Spicolli and Killer Blonde in Mexico. On 3/12/94, he teamed with Tim Patterson and Super Rabbit to upset the Chavo, Hector, and Mando Guerrero at AAA in L.A., one of AAA’s big shows in America.

Spicolli changed his name to Madonna’s Boyfriend and got his first serious push. He and Vandal Drummond defeated Super Boy and Captain Oro at La Lucha del Honor. He also occasionally teamed with “Diamond” Dallas Page. He got the biggest break of his career when he joined Los Gringos Locos, a pro-America/anti-Mexico group, headed by Eddy Guerrero, Art Barr, and Konnan. He made his pay-per-view debut on AAA’s only PPV, When Worlds Collide, on 11/6/94, teameing with Fuerza Guerrera and Psicosis to defeat Rey Misterio, Jr., Heavy Metal, and Latin Lover. He was involved in 3 of the 5 matches on the card, wrestling in one, being a second in another, and interfering in a third. This was by far the greatest night in Spicolli’s career and ironically enough the card was held at the L.A. Sports Arena.

The WWF decided they made a mistake by letting him go, so 9 days later he was offered a full-time WWF job. Spicolli took it because he didn’t like living in Mexico. He became Rad Radford, adopted a grunge rocker gimmick, and claimed that he was Courtney Love’s boyfriend, a take-off on the Madonna’s Boyfriend gimmick. On Raw on 9/11/95, teamed with the Brooklyn Brawler in a loss to the Smokin’ Gunns. He became a member of the Bodydonnas with Skip (Chris Candido), Zip (Tom Prichard), and manager Sunny (Tammy Sytch). In his only WWF PPV appearance at the ‘95 Survivor Series, he teamed with Skip, Zip, and the 1-2-3 Kid to beat Hakushi, Marty Jannetty, Bob Holly, and Barry Horowitz. Soon after, he was kicked out of The Bodydonnas for not being in good enough shape. He lost to Chris Benoit (who was in WCW at the time) on a special card in Canada honoring Stu Hart’s 60th anniversary in wrestling. Radford had many matches with Ahmed Johnson at house shows around the country, plus one on the 11/27/95 Raw, which turned out to be his last Raw appearance. He had a seizure and collapsed on the street as a result of bleeding in the brain, believed to be caused by Johnson dropping him on his head too many times. The WWF let him go because they felt he was a health risk.

Spicolli woked indy shows in California and Canada and tried to get an acting career off the ground, appearing as an extra in Beverly Hills 90210, Jerry Maguire, and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. He also appeared on MTV’s Singled Out.

He got an opportunity with ECW, making his debut with the company at Heatwave on 7/13/96 and beating El Puerto Ricano. Sabu then ran in and defeated Spicolli in an impromptu match, but Spicolli proved that he could wrestle a hardcore style during the match and even had his arm split open after Sabu sent him through a table. He resumed his feud with Candido, who had also moved on to ECW. Spicolli lost to ECW TV champ Shane Douglas on 9/14/96. At November to Remember, 2 Cold Scorpio, who was leaving for the WWF, said that he wanted to take other ECW wrestlers out with him. He challenged anyone to a loser-leaves-town match. Devon Storm, J.T. Smith, and Hack Myers all accepted the challenge and were defeated. Spicolli then answered the challenge and beat Scorpio in only 2 minutes. He lost to Candido at House Party, but upset future ECW World champion Mike Awesome at Crossing the Line Again.

He began making the NWO sign with his fingers as a way of communicating with his real-life friend Scott Hall. This infuriated Tommy Dreamer, who broke Spicolli’s fingers. Spicolli later used the Death Valley Driver on Dreamer’s valet, Beulah McGillicutty. He sided with WWF in ECW-WWF feud and helped Jerry Lawler, Sabu, and Rob Van Dam attack ECW wrestlers. Spicolli lost to Dreamer several times over the next few months. He lost to Chris Candido in a 2/3 falls match at Hostile City Showdown. He beat Balls Mahoney in a dark match on ECW’s first PPV, Barely Legal. However, Spicolli was very unhappy that he was left off the actual PPV. He began jobbing more often and lost to Mahoney and Mikey Whipwreck several times. When he was also left off of ECW’s second PPV, Hardcore Heaven, Spicolli quit ECW.

He signed with WCW and immediately appeared on a WCW PPV as one of the 60 men involved in the World War III 2-ring battle royal. He wrestled mainly on WCW Saturday Night and wore a T-shirt proclaiming himself “The Real Innovator” as a shot at “The Innovator of Violence” Tommy Dreamer. Spicolli became an NWO prospect, frequently accompanying Scott Hall to ringside. He helped Hall attack Larry Zbyszko after Zbyszko tried to convince him not to associate with the NWO. He also helped Hall and Dusty Rhodes attack Zbyszko at Souled Out. In his first Monday Nitro match on 1/26/98, he beat Juventud Guerrera.

Spicolli began getting tons of mic time and was even used as a color commentator for several matches and was hilarious. In what turned out to be his his last match ever, he lost to Chris Adams by DQ on Nitro on 2/9/98 when he hit Adams with a suitcase he had stolen from Zbyszko. He was chased back to the dressing room by Zbyszko after the match. Spicolli was almost fired 3 days later when, on Thursday Thunder from Oklahoma City, play-by-play man Tony Schiavone said he had a bombshell announcement and Spicolli, as color commentator, responded by saying that he shouldn’t say “bombshell” in this city (refering to the Oklahoma City bombing). WCW received several complaints and WCW Vice President Eric Bischoff was furious.

Only 3 days later, on 2/15/98, Spicolli was found dead in his L.A. home just one week before he was supposed to wrestle Zbyszko at Superbrawl VIII (in what would have been his first singles match on PPV) and in the middle of his biggest push ever in a major promotion. He reportedly died by overdosing on the prescription muscle relaxant soma and mixing it with alcohol. He was only 27. ECW renamed the Death Valley Driver the Spicolli Driver in his honor.

R.I.P. Louis Mucciolo 2/10/71 – 2/15/98

Mike Jones was hired by WWE to play the role of Ted DiBiasi's valet and was given the name 'Virgil' by Bobby Heenan, after WCW booker Virgil Runnels (Dusty Rhodes).
Both Ted and Bobby would later move to WCW, soon followed by Mike Jones who was hired by WCW to join the NWO and was given the name 'Vincent' by Bobby Heenen, after WWE booker Vincent McMahon.

Kind of like an honor name thing, thats cool. I didn't know that, neat.

Interesting fact; Thumper's last post in this thread was made at 3:16 AM.
Thumper 3:16 says I just posted yer ass!

I can't resist- Time to stomp a mud hole in this post and walk it dry. What? I said give me a hell yea!-What? You talk about your post and your threads and what not, well Thumper 3:16 said I just posted your ass! And thats my 1st post of the day cause Stone Cold Thumper said so!

I got some stuff for you guys that you probably don't know about. I call it The St. Louis Curse. At Bad Blood 97, the WWE found out that Brian Pillman have died in a hotel room in Minnesota. Bad Blood 1997 was held in St. Louis, Missouri. In 1999, WWE held a PPV called Over The Edge where Owen Hall fell to his death. The next night on RAW they had a tribute show. It was held in St. Louis, Missouri. In 2005, WWE had a House Show in St. Louis with the main event being Batista defending the World Title against Eddie Guerrero. One week later, Eddie Guerrero died in his hotel room. Last year, WWE held Judgment Day from St. Louis in May and one month later, Chris Benoit murdered his family and killed himself.

I dont know if it is a coincidence or what but I think it is kinda weird so I thought I would share that with you.

Also something else about STL. The Great Khali made his wrestling debut in St. Louis on Smackdown against Funaki. The Great Khali made his RAW debut in St. Louis going against John Cena. The past two times the WWE came to St. Louis, the main event was The Great Khali against John Cena. One at RAW in 2006 and again at Judgment Day 2007.

Well, this is what I can add to it. It's called the Kemper Arena curse and it has been making waves a little bit the last few years. A lot of performers there say they get a creepy feeling in there and there has been a lot of ghost sightings being reported from folks there, no shit. People are saying they are seeing a figure in the rafters, (and were not talking about Sting either). Like a shadow of sorts. I've been to Kemper Arena ( Seen the black crows perform there a while back) and it is somewhat of a creepy place. Over the edge was just plain enough creepy for that PPV to be called giving what happened and all, ironic. I remember watching it go down live and it sent the worst chill down my spine, watching a tragedy like that unfold with something you really enjoy. Everyone says the place is just plain bad luck!

I was actually at The Kemper Arena for that PPV but I did not see Owen fall. I went to get some food and I came back and everyone is standing up and I saw Owen lying there and asked what happened and that is when they told me.

Wow, thats some crazy shit. I know I'll never forget it. I can remember it like it was yesterday. I also remember that day because my wife won $1000.00 playing bingo in Lincoln that night. We were both shocked when we exchanged news to each other that night! Must have been really creepy being their live and all with what happened.

just one thought, how old is everyone here?

22 going on 50.

36 young and still going, just like the energizer rabbit!

27

man i must be the youngest here im only 16