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David Wilcock is a professional intuitive consultant who, since reading Richard C. Hoagland's "The Monuments of Mars" in 1993, has intensively researched ufology, ancient civilizations, consciousness science, and new paradigms of matter and energy. He is the author of a critically acclaimed trilogy of scientific research works, known as the Convergence series, which gives definitive support to the idea that a change in matter, energy and consciousness is now occurring on the Earth and throughout the solar system.

Wilcock has appeared on broadcast television, lectured throughout the United States and Japan, published a variety of magazine articles and appeared on numerous radio talk shows. He is the co-author of the book "The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce," now available in bookstores nationwide, and a summary of his latest scientific work appears therein, where a breakthrough case for mass, spontaneous DNA evolution on Earth is unveiled. David is also an accomplished musician and composer within a variety of styles, including jazz-fusion, meditative and world music.

David returned, sharing his perceptions about 2012 and parallel realities. The 2012 time frame could bring a "golden age" for humanity, with a dimensional shift that leads us into ascended states, and if there is a calamity such as a pole shift around this time, people will warp into a parallel reality and not be affected by it, he outlined.

Wilcock offered details of his conversations with "Daniel," a man who said he took part in the Montauk Project-- a series of experiments in which portals were materialized and people traveled through them. Space and time were completely inverted in the experiments so it appeared as though the subjects were traveling through time rather than space, Wilcock explained.

Wilcock also shared some of his psychic intuitions such as the United States government eventually collapsing and being replaced by nation states. Civilian outrage over the truth about 9-11 will be one of the things that leads to this, he said. Currently he is working on a film project, Convergence which he hopes will be ready for release by the end of 2008.


http://www.divinecosmos.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0TCyAgNvDA&NR=1

read it too. glad i only borrowed it and didn't waste the money... hoagland's a clown...

we did live on Mars and Milona, we lost both to wars ...


just wait, the huge Mars underground cities will be discovered,
as the Atlantis underground capsules under the Sphinx will ...

but you probably dont believe in either ...

LOL, I`m presuming that you don`t really believe this crap. If you don`t, then stop wasting our time. If you do, then get some help.

I agree

Atlantis underground capsules under the sphinx? Do me a favour, GET REAL!!!!

you all just show your immense ignorance about Edgar Cayce and Billy Meier predictions ...

time will open your eyes ...

yeah irish iv seen you post lots of replys referring to us living on mars and plaedians and past civilizations or something like that. but iv never seen any doc posts from you on the subject

if you have links to any posts you made with a basic understanding of this subject please reply with it, so that maybe i will have a clue what your talking about instead of fragmented rants about things i dont have a clue about

thanks.

http://www.myspace.com/xirdal

http://www.figu.org

http://www.theyfly.com

http://www.gaiaguys.net

http://www.semjase.net

http://www.billymeier.com

these should give you a year of study, if you are a seeker ...

there is only one answer in your language you can ever understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBNqUdqm1E&eurl=

there is only one answer in your language you can ever understand:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNBNqUdqm1E&eurl=

Thats one big pot caling........

Yeh Yeh Yeh... I,ve got more important things like family to focus my attention on
than to bother with this mumbo jumbo!!

Keep posting your finds, irishx! We all got different experiences and reality tunnels, so don't bother too much about the sceptics, especially if they got actually nothing to say !

Nevertheless, keep a sceptical mind for yourself, there's a lot of disinformation out there, also in some of the Project Camelot interviews...

You are right its the same 3 douches from the same quasi country or whats left of it who are attacking me and they never have anything to say ...

No need of wasting my energy on that shallow double digit iq genetic bottom of the barrel ...

just a couple links because i like this topic


http://www.mediafire.com/?cfo93opmgmy
shows evidence of cool tunnels and other stuff in it
pswd: white

frozen sea on mars, but wait...its underground! (or was)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/23/mars_frozen_sea/

The proverbial pot is still calling that damn kettle.......

all you do is bash on peoples belief. If everyone though like you, science would not exist, becuase everyone would be to damn close minded to even investigate anything. Keep in mind I think this idea is complete bull, but I think your attitude is pathetic.

As for this topic: I've always had the idea in the back of my head that it will be the oposite. I think its inevidable that humans will have to inhabit other planets in order to survive. I could see it happening in the future.... so I guess it would not be too far fetched that it happened in the past.

Don't some need to be bashed?

If you think that by pointing out inconsistencies and untruths is bashing, then I'll happily bash away!

Funnily enough that is what is required here a scientific perspective, you know some evidence, I'm all open to that any day of the week.

This is an issue of education. If people were properly educated, especially in science, then they would not be so easily led into daft irrational beliefs.

Other forms of education (non-sciencentific), may not have the same positive influence. An arts education may be wonderful for many things, but it does not aim to teach you how to think critically & objectively in the way science does. You may get that objectivity & so-called “common sense” from other things in your life (ie after your school/univ years), and of course that’s true for many people, but others will fail ever to see things objectively and will continue to delude themselves and to delude others throughout their life.

Part of the problem is that it’s much easier just to believe a conspiracy theory, as opposed to really trying to understand the objective evidence behind each issue. That makes conspiracy theories and other “mystic” ideas attractive to many people … ie it’s easy and it creates an intrigue or mystery which allows the individual to claim that they know the “real truth” or to claim they know better than others, but without actually doing any genuine investigative work. That’s partly why religion is still so popular - it’s much easier to simply read and believe a book like the bible, rather than find out objectively if each religious claim has any honest merit.

Education in science is not a magic bullet. It won’t ensure that everyone with a degree in physics takes a sensible objective view of the world. But that’s really not a valid point against science. Because we are talking of vast numbers of people in education, and some of them will inevitably turn out to have nutty ideas at all ends of the spectrum. The only valid way to look at it is statistically. And statistically, the better your scientific understanding of the world, the more likely you are to be objective & critical in your thinking, and the less likely you are to accept claims without any proper evidence (such as conspiracy theories).

Its possible to tie together a coherent string of "evidence" for just about ANYTHING, now its probably difficult to come up with something more absurd than say Icke's reptile planet, but you could always try. The "evidence" in favour of these claims are mostly rather absurd, and a weird cobble of symbolism, (ie: patterns in street-layouts, dollar bill markings) skepticism towards the ruling elite (which is healthy, but not when you think George Bush and Queen Elizabeth are from the same family of reptilian shapeshifters), and mysteries surrounding historical events,(9/11, JFK, WW2 etc.)

With the same ground rules, (none) you could show how all the world is at the mercy of a handful of Miss Universe contestants or how Live Aid and Teletubbies was all part of a plan to get Arnold Schwarzenegger elected Governor of California.

I'd suggest reading books such as Bad Astronomy, Carl Sagan's The Demon-Haunted World & Francis Wheen's How Mumbo Jumbo Conquered The World , alternatively watch here!

It can be scientifically proven that the official stories of 9/11 and JFK are wrong... but that's another story... The thing is that you take the current state of science as your religion. Phenomenons that don't fit into your believe system can't exist and must get fought. Thereby you do the same mistake as all the other followers of dogmatic believe systems.
Even in physics they are dealing now with the idea of a (up to) 12-dimensional cosmos. Higher rooms/dimensions don't necessarily follow our known physics (neither does the quantum level), therefore a lot of "crazy" ideas turn suddenly possible or even likely (travel through space in zero time etc.). You just need to get access to the laws/physics of these superordinated rooms and the possibilities increase a lot. I'd be very cautious with dissing everything which doesn't fit into your current understanding of reality. THere's still a lot to learn, believe me...

I'm open to real science and I'm far from close minded, you might want to tune in here for the real deal.

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Correction: It can be scientifically proven that the official stories of 9/11 are correct



That is an extremely nonsensical statement, the "state of science" is ever changing and has since its beginning, as new things are discovered, theories are re-shaped or hypothesis disproven. Scientists change their views and positions on scientifc matters all the time, thats what evidence does, it prove things to be either correct or incorrect.

When the world's great scientific thinkers change their minds.

Break the Science Barrier

The eye that sees 360 is seeing a circle where there is a sphere.