http://thebrownster70.110mb.com/flv.php?fl...%2F02_fight.flv

I have the impression it was fixed,the "martial artists" were not experts.

that was interesting... the mma guy did not know what to do lol ... not one tried to take him to the ground if that

was allowed i;m not sure

Francois Botha tried his hand at K1 and didnt do too bad considering
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x207bo_re...ois-botha_sport
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_LDoLW-2Jw

Bruce Lee said Boxers would always win in street fights against Martial Artists. Granted the MMA with take downs change things. But not as much as one might think. Boxers, especially with at least 10 oz gloves can simply hit harder. The gloves do not aid in making the hits easier to take, just the opposite. Thing is, boxers train as much to endure serious impacts as they do inflicting them. So all-in-all I agree with Bruce Lee.

where did bruce lee say that , just curious.



My money is on the mma guy . more tools available

I read it in an martial arts mag from the 70's that had an interview with him. I still have it somewhere but please, do not ask me to find it. But if I do I will share it. I assure you I'm not making it up, although you don't know me and have no reason to believe it, I'm a rarity online. I tend to be very truthful and open.
He also said that women should learn martial arts but in a life or death situation with a man, they should just kick him in the balls and run away. That is a sustained struggle they would likely lose.

I agree, MMA would win, because of take down. But in striking, boxer, even not having as many weapons, would win because it is just not about striking, but taking the hit. Taking hits, blocking, hitting hard.

even bruce lee knew the power of a punch One inch punch video

I miss him. Could you imagine if he was still alive. I wounder what he would think of Ufc, etc.

I think he'd love it. He was ahead of the curve on learning and mixing disciplines. And if he were to compete......whew.

I miss him too. I remember the day I heard he had died. I was 10 years and I recall not believing it, adamantly refusing to believe it. I had nunchucks, throwing stars etc and every martial arts mag I could find with articles about him but after he died I never touched them again. I was that crushed lol. No one ever replaced him for me.

maximum of 8Yards of tape per hand each hand wrapped up so hard that they become like concreate . Id say take the gloves off n do it that way

russsians sukk at martial arts!!!

boxers

I'd have to disagree about boxer beating a martial artist, though it would depend on the style of martial arts. Taekwondo, karate, and several forms of kung-fu would indeed be crippled against a well-trained boxer, and that is where I think Bruce draws his experience from. It also depends if it's in a ring with regulations and banned moves, and also if Mike Tyson is feeling hungry.

Boxers generally have only two weapons, their fists, and in a very elementary usage compared to the multiple striking capabilities of many martial arts (Muay Thai has eight with developed moves for each, giving far wider angle possibilities for attack). All it would take for a competent practitioner of several forms would be to open up the boxer's defense to repeatedly strike into the boxer while the boxer is unable to utilize their main defense - their gloves. Boxers often don't utilize their legs to the point of martial artists, leaving a wide open exploitable spot. Bruce probably also forgot to take into account that most martial artists are trained in weapon forms and sometimes with improvised weapons, so if it came to a street brawl where weapons might come into play, say goodbye to the boxer. Oh, and if a boxer tried to clinch, they would find themselves at a severe disadvantage as it can be reversed (difficult to do with gloves, as gloves limit clinching possibilities and makes it harder), and clinching makes it easier to start in with some of the more heavy attacks. I've seen someone go from a clinch to a dropping elbow chop to put their opponent down to the floor from the force.

I used to spar with boxers in the military (using loose rules and full body contact) and accidentally dislocated someone's hip because of a kick to the forward inner knee. They could only move away when a kick threatened their legs, which meant they weren't able to get close enough to punch. I also had a 6' high jumping knee during that time, and though I can't jump too well anymore, I can still chin music up to about 5 1/2' standing. You have to be careful with such attacks, as they were originally designed to be used to cripple and kill.

I'll also point out in the Bonjasky vs Botha fight, that it would have been over far faster if the Muay Thai wasn't crippled by wearing gloves though it is regulation, but that might have resulted in broken bones of the opponent. In addition to that, Bonjasky was seeming to use a limited form of Muay Thai, but maybe that's just regulations on allowed moves in that competition. The military form of Muay Thai (Lerdrit, which I'm most familiar with), or even Muay Boran would have finished that fight quickly without question but it would have involved serious injury to the opponent. There is a reason why Muay Thai artists wear gloves, a bit contrary to the added weight it offers boxers for more force, because it removes the possibility of using several of the grappling techniques, the palm and knuckle strikes, as well as making it a bit harder to aim nasty elbow strikes. A rising elbow is hard to perform while maintaining a tight defense with modern boxing gloves, as would be follow-up elbow attacks be a bit limited in effectiveness.

There's a reason why they revised what later became Muay Thai to be a bit softer, because it was turned into a sport.

Doesn`t have much to do with MMA vs Boxing, it depends on the person

A big/small Martial Artist (top grade,not MMA shite) would always beat a Big/small Boxer (again Top grade)

always huh, i would love to be able to predict stupid shit like that....always