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Fall Of The Republic (2009)

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AKA: The Presidency of Barack H. Obama - Alex Jones has revealed how the existing Obama regime intoxicating people with their misleading propaganda and consequently brainwashing them to accept oppression. He has revealed many of such tactics in his much-awaited documentary “Fall of the republic: the presidency of Barack Obama



http://xtshare.com/toshare.php?Id=19607&am...Of-The-Republic
or
http://xtshare.com/toshare.php?Id=19608&view=JzNaDgx
or
http://vidreel.com/video/NTc3NTE3/
or
http://vidreel.com/video/NTc3NTE4/
EvilTV
Alex Jones:The Fall of the Republic



Watch on YouTube
Xris86
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Fall Of The Republic documents how an offshore corporate cartel is bankrupting the US economy by design. Leaders are now declaring that world government has arrived and that the dollar will be replaced by a new global currency.

President Obama has brazenly violated Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution by seating himself at the head of United Nations' Security Council, thus becoming the first US president to chair the world body.

A scientific dictatorship is in its final stages of completion, and laws protecting basic human rights are being abolished worldwide; an iron curtain of high-tech tyranny is now descending over the planet.

A worldwide regime controlled by an unelected corporate elite is implementing a planetary carbon tax system that will dominate all human activity and establish a system of neo-feudal slavery.

The image makers have carefully packaged Obama as the world's savior; he is the Trojan Horse manufactured to pacify the people just long enough for the globalists to complete their master plan.

This film reveals the architecture of the New World Order and what the power elite have in store for humanity. More importantly it communicates how We The People can retake control of our government, turn the criminal tide and bring the tyrants to justice.


Full video Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8 (Thank you jerzyguy29)

ALT http://www.divxden.com/bwpigo052frs/qfn-fotr.avi.html (Thank you jerzyguy29)

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Youtube Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDQ6nIsgKW0
Youtube Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO2u8TGAZxc
Youtube Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpe--KKPt7k
Youtube Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpJKGcKl1uY
Youtube Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK0B70nO58o
Youtube Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Q17uwwR4E
Youtube Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzVB83ccOFE
Youtube Part 8: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMh_rddULl8
Youtube Part 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbRy5FUv44o
Youtube Part 10: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97n-a9EYUIQ
Youtube Part 11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ZadD7S3zA
Youtube Part 12: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol6iuBnvqUs
Youtube Part 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tau6o_IJlF8
Youtube Part 14: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQWDhA5ZLkg

Another great movie by Alex Jones. (Original Alex Jones upload not my own I'm just passing it on)

Enjoy guys.

*Edit* More links added (Thanks jerzyguy29)
dudeamis


*facepalm*
keysersoze87
should be moved to a comedy section
Xris86
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It's so funny the day of it's release this is what happens. This was a good Movie just as good as The Obama Deception. People should actually watch it before judging and leaving comments.
jerzyguy29
Full Movie on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WourPs56Shc
Rictas
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Actually this only goes up to part 11, you'll have to watch the rest separately
SL3YR
Great new film by AJ excellent thamks alot

And for the debunkers and trolls out there YOU CANT DEBUNK THE FACTS or a well made factual doc, this is a blow 2 the nwo

Trolls should atleast watch before making uninformed comments these are facts and NOT opinions this is not just a swipe at Obama

but a look at the whole picture.

Dont forget that this is only part 1 of 3 and that there is permission to copy and distribute for free.

let the Trolling begin lol PEACE ALL




rip jimmy
djscarecrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8

2hrs 24ms version
litha
QUOTE(dudeamis @ Oct 22 2009, 02:35 PM) *
*facepalm*

jerzyguy29
QUOTE(Rictas @ Oct 22 2009, 07:12 PM) *
Actually this only goes up to part 11, you'll have to watch the rest separately


Thanks for catching that. I posted the wrong link.
here is the full movie 2hr and 24 min

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8


http://www.divxden.com/bwpigo052frs/qfn-fotr.avi.html
Xris86
QUOTE(jerzyguy29 @ Oct 23 2009, 05:55 AM) *
Thanks for catching that. I posted the wrong link.
here is the full movie 2hr and 24 min

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LPNRI_6T8
http://www.divxden.com/bwpigo052frs/qfn-fotr.avi.html


Thanks allot mate. Topic edited and new links added.
keysersoze87
QUOTE(SL3YR @ Oct 23 2009, 02:02 AM) *
Great new film by AJ excellent thamks alot

And for the debunkers and trolls out there YOU CANT DEBUNK THE FACTS or a well made factual doc, this is a blow 2 the nwo



There comes a time where a rationalist will simply step away. However if the issue is something like Intelligent Design being forced into a science class room then some will stand up refute, debunk the claim as there is something worth stopping however if there is a mad man on the radio saying the nwo is trying to enslave us....I can let that one slide as its the same as the mad man on the street corner preaching, I can simply cut a wide birth around him, consider not engaging in rational debate with this nonsense as the metaphorical cutting a wide birth. rolleyes.gif
maximius
"Alex JonesīŧšThe Fall of the Republic" this belongs in thread "Paranormal/Conspiracy"<<<<<<<<
I propose a sticky with guidlines about these things...
jason
QUOTE(maximius @ Oct 23 2009, 12:12 PM) *
"Alex JonesīŧšThe Fall of the Republic" this belongs in thread "Paranormal/Conspiracy"<<<<<<<<
I propose a sticky with guidlines about these things...

I propose it's posted in both areas emoticon-0122-itwasntme.gif
kuys
QUOTE(SL3YR @ Oct 23 2009, 01:02 AM) *
Great new film by AJ excellent thamks alot

And for the debunkers and trolls out there YOU CANT DEBUNK THE FACTS or a well made factual doc, this is a blow 2 the nwo


Since when is speculation, hearsay and conjecture on the same level as facts with context?

There maybe facts in this but they are presented with out context and then strung together amid wild speculation and conjecture.
morpheusprime
QUOTE(Xris86 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:20 PM) *
President Obama has brazenly violated Article 1 Section 9 of the US Constitution by seating himself at the head of United Nations' Security Council, thus becoming the first US president to chair the world body.


QUOTE(SL3YR @ Oct 22 2009, 09:02 PM) *
And for the debunkers and trolls out there YOU CANT DEBUNK THE FACTS or a well made factual doc, this is a blow 2 the nwo


1 Section 9 of the US Constitution
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

no violation. Alex Jones one again ignoring the facts to share his opinion. what we have here is a pres. who didn't just send someone to take care of it. he is taking an active part in trying to fix things. good for him! (The Presidency rotates monthly in alphabetical order of the Security Council member nations' names in English)

if he got the easiest one to look up wrong, i sure aint gonna trust the rest of it.
maximius
QUOTE(jason @ Oct 23 2009, 05:38 PM) *
I propose it's posted in both areas emoticon-0122-itwasntme.gif

it is posted both places...this have nothing do do in this forum...this is for factual real documentaries..not wild speculations from a screaming lunatic like Alex Jones...New world order my A** and with this posted the proper place ..this posting is to say the least..redundant!
jason
QUOTE(maximius @ Oct 24 2009, 01:43 AM) *
it is posted both places...this have nothing do do in this forum...this is for factual real documentaries..not wild speculations from a screaming lunatic like Alex Jones...New world order my A** and with this posted the proper place ..this posting is to say the least..redundant!

Oh good. Glad it's posted in both areas, seeing as the premise of this work is about people, places, history and how a conspiracy has been interwoven into their/our very fabric of what passes as reality. You are of course entitled to your views and the freedom to express them, but then so am I.

Unless for solely defensive (NOT PRE-EMPTIVE) reasons, I see no purpose whatsoever in armies or soldiers, and all that shit etc. They, mostly unknowingly, just perpetuate a fear driven global paradigm and keep the coffers rolling in to the REAL controlling forces.......the corportocracy and the banks behind them.

As soon as puppet people,(like yourself, and most of us in varying degrees to be really honest), have the arrogance and ignorance to invade and dominate someone elses land in the name of "freedom/democracy", or to preserve our safety or theirs, 'specially after OUR SO CALLED LEADERS sell them loads of arms (mechanical and chemical), and then have the audacity to say they are a threat, a gulf in reasoned logic becomes somewhat apparent in parts of society............The GULF war in contempory terms therefore.............is a battle against global mass hypnosis, and the internet has and will be the catalyst for the waking change, owing to the freedom of information it provides. There are some though, maximuis, that still have a LOT of research to do, and if the mainstream corporate conditioning and ego is rigid enough, then the lack of appetite for this self challenge will keep the more strongly brainwashed in ths dark. However, I personally view the cat to be well out of the bag now, and the global awakening of accute cynacism towards our conditioning forces is exponential.

For the record, I'm no big fan of AJ but he has revealed many areas for further investigation throughout recent years, which have opened my eyes to many layers of truth that were beforehand shielded............mainly by own ignorance, naiveity....................................and related CONDITIONING.

I'd suggest you listen to John Pilger and watch his documentaries, many of them award winning, and then research the areas exposed. Read 1984 and Brave New World. Listen to Bill Hicks. Experience psychedelics. Drop that fucking nauseous uniform, and change your avatar to something more peace inspiring like a flower.............. War for peace?...........hello?????????????


Bill Hicks - Gays in the millitary...............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6_b-72H3E

Pilger........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXL998q7skI

http://fora.tv/2008/08/23/Melbourne_Writer...val_John_Pilger

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...;q=john+pilger#

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...485454526581006

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=john...amp;oq=john+pi#

smarrie
Thanks for the Melbourne Writers Festival: John Pilger's 2008 'complicity and compliance' talk.

As for substantiating any of AJ's intentional befuddling tomfoolery...In the event of an erection while viewing seek immediate medical help to avoid long-term injury to reflective faculties.
kuys
Reported for the move.
SL3YR
Please watch before making a comment

It should be a rule honestly ......sigh....

and remember dont feed the trolls guys and gals

It will help mantain your sanity in here

peace all







rip jimmy
morpheusprime
first off, this isn't a Documentary, its a collection of soundbites (meaning we dont know the context they were made in). with enough soundbites, you can "prove" anything.

SL3YR--i hope you weren't referring to me. i did watch this drivel, and there was no indication that i didn't. a difference in opinion is not trolling. your "let the trolling begin" kiinda says your looking to fight and argue.
ghost365
deaf dumb AND blind
maximius
this
dudeamis
QUOTE(Xris86 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:50 PM) *
[code]#99 - Most Discussed (Today)
It's so funny the day of it's release this is what happens. This was a good Movie just as good as The Obama Deception. People should actually watch it before judging and leaving comments.


rofl, if its as good as the Obama Deception thats all people need to know to laugh at it.
dudeamis
QUOTE(SL3YR @ Oct 24 2009, 05:28 PM) *
Please watch before making a comment

It should be a rule honestly ......sigh....

and remember dont feed the trolls guys and gals

It will help mantain your sanity in here

peace all
rip jimmy


lol, this whole "documentary" is an exercise in trolling.
topperqs
The Fall of The Republic: The Presidency of Barack H Obama (2009)
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AKA: The Presidency of Barack H. Obama - Alex Jones has revealed how the existing Obama regime intoxicating people with their misleading propaganda and consequently brainwashing them to accept oppression.



Divx

http://www.movshare.net/video/bzglgbs6ge115#

http://www.divxden.com/bwpigo052frs/qfn-fotr.avi.html



Flash

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=2I8HU6UJ

http://www.novamov.com/video/ro42h7kqhf63y

http://www.zshare.net/video/67492917be172b7b/

http://xtshare.com/humancheck.php?Id=19606

http://vidreel.com/human/NTc3NTE2/

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crypto
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 25 2009, 04:10 AM) *
first off, this isn't a Documentary, its a collection of soundbites

emoticon-0136-giggle.gif
they are video clips...

This should be Indexed ASAP!
crypto
QUOTE(maximius @ Oct 24 2009, 01:55 AM) *
this is for factual real documentaries.. New world order my A**


Actually most of the documentary is factual... till the end where he goes off a bit. I was impressed because it touches on everything my doc list talks about, just in summery.

The New World Order is a real term used by real politicians frequently and as such has left the realm of conspiracy(a conspiracy is a secret and they are not keeping it secret any more).

I've watched the very early videos of Alex and yes he did rave ALOT... but now he is more reserved and is starting to look at the real problem... corporations. well done to Alex I hope he continues to shed light on closed doors.
topperqs
I propose a new sub-forum called Disinformation and move this, currently in Politics and Government, to that sub-forum.
Panorama: Terror In The Skies?
http://www.youtube.com/user/DocumentaryHD#...3/0/bbwqMLkyQZI

And I haven't even given a good look around yet.

And BTW, who decides around here, what goes where?

I think I'll report every piece of dribble I find to be placed here at Paranormal and Conspiracy short of there not being a Disinformation section. And I'm not talking about Alex Jones.

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I got it. I'll post mainstream stories and then counter them with factual stories in the same post.
This sounds like fun, any ideas?

So...above is the story-
Panorama: Terror In The Skies?
And the facts are, although it's audio for now-
http://takingaimradio.com/mp3/takingaim060815.mp3

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crypto
QUOTE(topperqs @ Oct 27 2009, 03:35 AM) *
I propose a new sub-forum called Disinformation and move this, currently in Politics and Government, to that sub-forum.
Panorama: Terror In The Skies?
http://www.youtube.com/user/DocumentaryHD#...3/0/bbwqMLkyQZI


I'd say its because its a Discovery Channel Doc and terror is part of the consent factory aka mainstream media. The mods are just going with the norm, its not their job to change public opinion, even if they wanted too. Now lets say Fall of the Republic gets aired on NBC, CBS, FOX and declared an award winning flick... then they could justify a move to politics without a bunch of argue.gif

Paranormal could be split from conspiracy, it is a bit naive to think that nobody is conspiring to take control of government away from the people... in fact the whole idea of terrorism is just another form of conspiracy, The Power of Nightmares by Adam Curtis shows that very well.
morpheusprime
QUOTE(crypto @ Oct 26 2009, 09:45 PM) *
(a conspiracy is a secret and they are not keeping it secret any more).



a conspiracy is a secret. then why are there 62 bajillion web sites and books and radio talk shows that will tell me all about them? there is always a secret or cover-up that people want to tell you all about in detail. weird. i also get a kick out of when you don't believe it, your "sheeple" believing everything the gov. says cuz they said it. and why, because some guy wrote a book and says different. and you need to wake up because the facts are in the book. hmmm.....not at all like sheeple. (ever notice that alex jones fans always refer to him as alex in an argument. like they are pals. i would like to see a psychiatrist's take on that)

as far as any NWO conspiracy goes, human nature makes it impossible. people will tell you this has been going on for 100 years with secret groups and other such nonsense. the whole point of it would be to get rich and have all the power. who would put a plan into action, that comes to term (maybe) after they are dead? corporations and banks don't want to rule. the guy that owns them does. now. not "someday my plan will work and someone else will rule"

sorry for the rant. kinda got on a bit of a flow there.
crypto
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 27 2009, 05:20 AM) *
(ever notice that alex jones fans always refer to him as alex in an argument. like they are pals. i would like to see a psychiatrist's take on that)


I call him Alex because he is just an average ordinary American with a camera, doing what every democratic citizen should be doing... watching his/her government. I call Noam Chomsky Mr.Chomsky or Prof. Chomsky because is not an average ordinary American, he is an exceptional American who refrains from making unfounded accusations and backs his claims with facts; thus earning a title. I'm sure most psychiatrists would concur, in fact they might be concerned about my mental health if I did give him a title of some sort...

America should smile and pat Alex on the back because he demonstrates that in America, people have the freedom to point a finger at the President of the United States and proclaim treason; yet not get arrested, jailed then executed. He can broadcast his views and opinions, there are cameras and publicly accessible footage of congress and politicians... etc,etc. Without it there is no point to democracy.

As far a treason goes, I think he is referring to the President being the Chairman/President of The United Nations Security Council. He is calling it a "title" which is granted/bestowed by either the 14 "foreign nation" members, or the entire 192 "foreign nation" UN Assembly. Regardless of the constitutional ramifications/legalities, he brings up some important questions... why has no president in the last 6 decades ever taken the seat, and why now? Obvious questions the media should be asking, but after seeing the response to the question of "tax increases" it is unlikely to get an answer.

QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 27 2009, 05:20 AM) *
as far as any NWO conspiracy goes, human nature makes it impossible.

As I said in the post, it is a real term used by real politicians... actually listening to them would help you hear this. Or actually watching the documentary you are posting on would do the same.
Subtonik
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 23 2009, 11:20 PM) *
1 Section 9 of the US Constitution
No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

no violation. Alex Jones one again ignoring the facts to share his opinion. what we have here is a pres. who didn't just send someone to take care of it. he is taking an active part in trying to fix things. good for him! (The Presidency rotates monthly in alphabetical order of the Security Council member nations' names in English)

if he got the easiest one to look up wrong, i sure aint gonna trust the rest of it.


What do you mean 'no violation'? Read it again....

The Title of Nobility Clause prohibits Congress from granting any title of nobility. In addition, it specifies that no civil officer may accept, without the consent of Congress, any emolument, office or title from a foreign ruler or state.

Did Obama obtain congressional approval for accepting membership into the UN security council to begin with?
Subtonik
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 27 2009, 05:20 AM) *
who would put a plan into action, that comes to term (maybe) after they are dead? corporations and banks don't want to rule. the guy that owns them does. now. not "someday my plan will work and someone else will rule"


Ummm...perhaps offspring? Every heard of inheritance? The ruling class didn't earn their wealth in one lifetime. Just look at (off the top of my head) the Royal Family, Rockerellers, Rothschilds, Bushs etc..

It's also human nature to plant your seed and nurture it, it's in fact a bioligical imperative. Procreation and survival mechanisms are hard wired into every living species. If you give anyone enough power, they will abuse it - this is human nature. If you're born into power and wealth, however, you're indoctrinated into a mentality of eltism. Obviously, the cycle perpetuates and you will instill the same values in you're future offspring to ensure that your seed prospers.
morpheusprime
QUOTE(Subtonik @ Oct 27 2009, 03:39 PM) *
What do you mean 'no violation'? Read it again....

The Title of Nobility Clause prohibits Congress from granting any title of nobility. In addition, it specifies that no civil officer may accept, without the consent of Congress, any emolument, office or title from a foreign ruler or state.

Did Obama obtain congressional approval for accepting membership into the UN security council to begin with?



just what i said. the U.N. is not a foreign state. it is not a sovereign nation. the representatives are not foreign rulers. the position is not granted by the other members. nothing was accepted or received form any ruler or state.
kuys
New world order is just a ominous sounding phrase that world leaders like to use to make their usually insignificant changes in policy sound dramatic. Their is no shadowy cabal out trying to rule the world. Just a bunch of conceited people and corporations out to make a buck anyway possible. Even if it means screwing over the people, country and planet. It's the nature of the beast to look for short term gains to boost stock prices and personal wealth. Corporations by their very design aren't capable of looking but a quarter ahead.

The world may be going to shit in some respects but that's the nature of the universe. Chaos and entropy, there isn't such a thing as order just an illusion of such. It's as simple as Occam's razor. "When you have two competing theories that make exactly the same predictions, the simpler one is the better."

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The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory is that conspiracy theorists actually believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is chaotic. The truth is, that it is not the Jewish banking conspiracy or the grey aliens or the 12 foot reptiloids from another dimension that are in control. The truth is more frightening, nobody is in control. The world is rudderless.
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Subtonik
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 27 2009, 10:48 PM) *
just what i said. the U.N. is not a foreign state. it is not a sovereign nation. the representatives are not foreign rulers. the position is not granted by the other members. nothing was accepted or received form any ruler or state.


As an entity, it is a ruler. It's an extra-territorial government with many branches and it's own constitutional doctrines. It has the ability to try people for crimes in it's own court (the international court of justice in the Hague), it has the ability to impose all sorts of economic sanctions and has so much influence that it imposes laws by setting standards that every country has to follow. In essence, it's a ruler of rulers;)
morpheusprime
QUOTE(Subtonik @ Oct 27 2009, 03:43 PM) *
Ummm...perhaps offspring? Every heard of inheritance? The ruling class didn't earn their wealth in one lifetime. Just look at (off the top of my head) the Royal Family, Rockerellers, Rothschilds, Bushs etc..

It's also human nature to plant your seed and nurture it, it's in fact a bioligical imperative. Procreation and survival mechanisms are hard wired into every living species. If you give anyone enough power, they will abuse it - this is human nature. If you're born into power and wealth, however, you're indoctrinated into a mentality of eltism. Obviously, the cycle perpetuates and you will instill the same values in you're future offspring to ensure that your seed prospers.


i totally see what your saying. but im talking about the evil villains of conspiracy. they want to rule the world. greedy old men don't care about the world after they die. or they would have retired and let someone else run it. (you never see a james bond villan thinking about his grandkids. biggrin.gif ) these are people that crush others (including family) to get where they are.


oh, and crypto, i wasn't singling you out. was just sayin' in general. biggrin.gif
Subtonik
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 27 2009, 11:20 PM) *
i totally see what your saying. but im talking about the evil villains of conspiracy. they want to rule the world. greedy old men don't care about the world after they die. or they would have retired and let someone else run it. (you never see a james bond villan thinking about his grandkids. biggrin.gif ) these are people that crush others (including family) to get where they are.


And with the abundance of camera phones and billions of youtube videos we have yet to see a real life super secret spy sky dive into a hover craft and drive it through a major city while in pursuit of international terrorists, firing thousands of rounds which leave bystanders unscathed.

Why do you think there aren't many movie scenes where 'the bad guys' are portrayed as caring individuals? Probably because they wouldn't look like bad guys and then the good guys would be less credible for fighting them.

You see real life is not so ideal.

I'm having a hard time understanding what you mean by 'the evil villains of conspiracy'.
morpheusprime
QUOTE(Subtonik @ Oct 27 2009, 06:14 PM) *
As an entity, it is a ruler. It's an extra-territorial government with many branches and it's own constitutional doctrines. It has the ability to try people for crimes in it's own court (the international court of justice in the Hague), it has the ability to impose all sorts of economic sanctions and has so much influence that it imposes laws by setting standards that every country has to follow. In essence, it's a ruler of rulers;)



it is not an autonomous entity. the standards that every country has to follow have to be voted on by those same country's.

i guess what ive been saying is, the U.S. Constitution is a legal document. it deals with law. and fact. i see where you are coming from, but bu saying, its basically is this, dose not work in law. we could debate the U.N. all day and both be right. i am not dismissing your statements, (i might even agree on some of it) but from a legal standpoint, the wording of the document has not been violated.

MrFunyun
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 27 2009, 09:48 PM) *
just what i said. the U.N. is not a foreign state. it is not a sovereign nation. the representatives are not foreign rulers. the position is not granted by the other members. nothing was accepted or received form any ruler or state.







It is not a sovereign nation but is it a seperate entity with assets to defend/expand?
morpheusprime
QUOTE(MrFunyun @ Oct 27 2009, 07:43 PM) *
It is not a sovereign nation but is it a seperate entity with assets to defend/expand?



where do those assets come from?
MrFunyun
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 28 2009, 12:29 AM) *
where do those assets come from?




http://images.google.ie/images?gbv=1&h...art=20&sa=N

what i mean by that is, has it got a sphere of influence? and if so is that influence beyond the territory of the united states?
MrFunyun
The u.n has near 200 members yet more than 80% of the combined wealth of these nations is tied up in the top 9 or 10 of them, any guesses which ones? This is not recipricated by population/territory or resources.
Now, there are corporations out there that have nation sized GDPs. These corporations therefore have assets to protect yet they have no military to do so. How they going to defend/expand their assets?
SL3YR
thankyou good doc





rip jimmy
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