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izabadgirl
Deception In The Last Days

Jacob Prasch discusses how in the last days, a great apostasy is arising, just prior to the return of Jesus Christ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9QHlBhNyx8...&playnext=1

The Coming World Religion

Paul McGuire a reformed atheist talks about the coming world political/religious system, and how occultism and spiritual forces are behind it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kfs3kRcPdA...&playnext=1


The Mid East Crisis - A Biblical Perspective

David Reagan looks at the mid-east crisis from a biblical perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LnEIZH-aP8...&playnext=1


The Late Great USA

Mark Hitchcock discusses whether or not the USA (America) will play any significant role in the last days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHt1_xJVtjo...0C1&index=0




PROPHECY: THIS IS NO FAIRY TALE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwx-2yXFTYA


EUPHRATES River DRYING UP!! To prepare for Armageddon REV 16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHrL6ymfUI
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/07/13/world/20090713EUPHRATES_index.html
A Muslim leader wants a 3rd Jewish Temple?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5qAV9Ec_T8
http://www.examiner.com/x-11724-Phoenix-Biblical-Prophecy-Examiner~y2009m8d9-JewishMuslim-coalition-calls-for-rebuilt-Temple


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+buy+gold+and+silver&search_type=&aq=f
James 5:1-3 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

3Your GOLD and SILVER is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together FOR THE LAST DAYS.


101 PROPHECIES OF THE LAST DAYS

http://tjay1777.tripod.com/

Skamp
Souldn't this be titled Southern California Batshit Crazy Conference ?

Seriously though a good dose of sarin could be a soloution to ending those guy days no ?
morpheusprime
QUOTE(Skamp @ Oct 4 2009, 05:13 AM) *
Souldn't this be titled Southern California Batshit Crazy Conference ?




sorry, didn't watch them yet, but that was funny!!!
izabadgirl
QUOTE(Skamp @ Oct 4 2009, 04:13 AM) *
Souldn't this be titled Southern California Batshit Crazy Conference ?

Seriously though a good dose of sarin could be a soloution to ending those guy days no ?



PROPHECY: THIS IS NO FAIRY TALE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwx-2yXFTYA


EUPHRATES River DRYING UP!! To prepare for Armageddon REV 16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHrL6ymfUI
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/07/13/world/20090713EUPHRATES_index.html
A Muslim leader wants a 3rd Jewish Temple?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5qAV9Ec_T8
http://www.examiner.com/x-11724-Phoenix-Biblical-Prophecy-Examiner~y2009m8d9-JewishMuslim-coalition-calls-for-rebuilt-Temple


http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+buy+gold+and+silver&search_type=&aq=f
James 5:1-3 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

3Your GOLD and SILVER is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together FOR THE LAST DAYS.


101 PROPHECIES OF THE LAST DAYS

http://tjay1777.tripod.com/

izabadgirl
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 4 2009, 04:25 AM) *


sorry, didn't watch them yet, but that was funny!!!



Yea well God is having a good laugh about people like you that doesn't take his warnings seriously!

Psalm 2: 1-5 (KJV)

"Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against His anointed, saying Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. HE THAT SITTETH IN THE HEAVENS SHALL LAUGH: THE LORD SHALL HAVE THEM IN DERISION. Then shall He speak unto them in His wrath, and vex them in His sore displeasure."

Psalm 37: 12-13 (KJV)

"The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth. THE LORD SHALL LAUGH AT HIM: for He seeth that his day is coming."
Skamp
If there is a god then he would be laughing at people like you who take the King James Bible as fact,you do know that Kings James laid down very strict instructions on what that Book you hold so dear contains.

Don't you ?
izabadgirl
QUOTE(Skamp @ Oct 4 2009, 05:10 AM) *
If there is a god then he would be laughing at people like you who take the King James Bible as fact,you do know that Kings James laid down very strict instructions on what that Book you hold so dear contains.

Don't you ?


TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!!
smarrie
No not a fairy tale, this goose-stepping xenophobic malevolence iza deadly offense against your god and not the saintly road sign to any rapturous ingathering future event...iza harvest of tribulation in hell.
BlackhawkNZ
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 4 2009, 11:32 PM) *
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!!


Hehe, keeeep on counting the days Iza, you'll die a death of old age and still nothing will happen. If not, you'll be locked up in a mental institution with the rest of the batshit, crazy, fucktarded, demented and deluded right wing christians.

Still, your posts are really good for a giggle. Maybe I was wrong when I said that you had no sense of humour... hang on, no, no, I was still right. I think I'm laughing at you and your beliefs, rather than with you. You'd get along well with the crazy Maori lady with the huge cardboard cross around her neck that stands at the corner of the lights down Colombo Street here in Christchurch, shouting to everyone that the end is going to come unless they repent. Yeah, you two should get together and have a good ol' natter, don't think she has many friends here. Maybe you could take her in?

Actually, you'd be really popular here Iza, you could even have your own TV bit, at the end of the news.. "And now for crazy lady time... The latest doom and gloom biblical prophecies from our very own resident Texan... Iza!!"

It'd kinda be like the crazy cat lady on the Simpsons but funnier because you would sit there in front of the camera and actually believe what you say. Kiwis would be tickled pink by that, they really, really would.
Skamp
I love the fact that Izas life and the lives of her loved ones has been dicated to by a man who stood for everything that the right wing bible thumpers in America hate.

I'd love you to ask your Pastor (is that what you call them?) what his views are that King James liked to both give and take it up the wrong un,i doubt you will but i'd love to know how that convo went down.
starfkr
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 4 2009, 04:58 AM) *
3Your GOLD and SILVER is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together FOR THE LAST DAYS.
101 PROPHECIES OF THE LAST DAYS

http://tjay1777.tripod.com/[/b]


IZA, once again you quote scipture without realizing it is wrong.

Gold and Silver do not rust. Silver can tarnish, but pure Gold will not. Neither Gold nor Silver "rusts".
BlackhawkNZ
QUOTE(starfkr @ Oct 5 2009, 04:08 AM) *
IZA, once again you quote scipture without realizing it is wrong.

Gold and Silver do not rust. Silver can tarnish, but pure Gold will not. Neither Gold nor Silver "rusts".


Yup, because apparently, the bible is scientifically accurate.. didn't you know that?
shaolin
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 4 2009, 11:32 AM) *
TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!!

shaolin
Drivel like this is what turns moderate christians away from religion. Not all Christians are so wacked out that they believe this crap. I honestly pity the people who buy this shit, and even worse are the people who try and brainwash others into believing this crap.

This isn't Christianity, this is crazy, perverted, cult type mentality. Most Christians I know do not follow these kind of sick beliefs.

Before I joined QSS I had no idea people were this deranged when it came to Christianty. I know a lot of bad has happened in the world in the name of Christianity, but I also know most Christians (from a british perspective) are just peaceful people, not fearmongering, hate spewing, mental cases.

This kind of mentality is akin to the muslims who preach Jihad.

Some people need to take a step back and take a look at what they've become. It's never too late, you are in control of your own mind, the most powerful tool you possess, you need to use it, instead of following along with what you're being fed, by people who do not have your best interest at heart.
Alienz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E

here you go this is where its at.


ultraforge
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TICK TOCK TICK TOCK!!

You have serious mental health issues and I would suggest counseling or medication. Both of which should be prescribed by a certified professional.

If you share these apocalyptic thoughts with a child then you are abusing that child mentally, and are perpetuating a cycle of abuse.

You have serious problems that require serious attention. Do not think I am joking.
Splenda26
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 4 2009, 03:29 AM) *
Deception In The Last Days

Jacob Prasch discusses how in the last days, a great apostasy is arising, just prior to the return of Jesus Christ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9QHlBhNyx8...&playnext=1

The Coming World Religion

Paul McGuire a reformed atheist talks about the coming world political/religious system, and how occultism and spiritual forces are behind it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kfs3kRcPdA...&playnext=1
The Mid East Crisis - A Biblical Perspective

David Reagan looks at the mid-east crisis from a biblical perspective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LnEIZH-aP8...&playnext=1
The Late Great USA

Mark Hitchcock discusses whether or not the USA (America) will play any significant role in the last days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHt1_xJVtjo...0C1&index=0
PROPHECY: THIS IS NO FAIRY TALE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwx-2yXFTYA
EUPHRATES River DRYING UP!! To prepare for Armageddon REV 16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlHrL6ymfUI
http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/07/13/world/20090713EUPHRATES_index.html
A Muslim leader wants a 3rd Jewish Temple?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5qAV9Ec_T8
http://www.examiner.com/x-11724-Phoenix-Biblical-Prophecy-Examiner~y2009m8d9-JewishMuslim-coalition-calls-for-rebuilt-Temple
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+buy+gold+and+silver&search_type=&aq=f
James 5:1-3 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

3Your GOLD and SILVER is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together FOR THE LAST DAYS.
101 PROPHECIES OF THE LAST DAYS

http://tjay1777.tripod.com/



Question? So in Hinduism there are stories that predate the bible but are almost copies when you compare the 2 ,,, whats you feeling on that?
litha
QUOTE(shaolinblade @ Oct 4 2009, 11:31 AM) *
This kind of mentality is akin to the Muslims who preach Jihad.


Its exactly the same, along with the Heavens gate cult,kamikaze pilots,Scientology and Jim Jones.


We've just had our Sunday sermon boys, God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. Hot Damn!
"A real Texan quote"
izabadgirl
QUOTE(starfkr @ Oct 4 2009, 10:08 AM) *
IZA, once again you quote scipture without realizing it is wrong.

Gold and Silver do not rust. Silver can tarnish, but pure Gold will not. Neither Gold nor Silver "rusts".


Gold is mentioned over 400 times and silver mentioned over 200 times in the bible do you think they knew it didn't rust? Ever heard of a metaphor brilliant one? Your GOLD and SILVER is cankered, Cankered can mean morally corrupt. Look that up. What God is saying here is that gold and silver in the last days will be useless. Think about this for a moment...The bible talks about you can not buy and sell without taking the mark of the beast that most likely means it has to be a cashless society. Being Chipped perhaps? So if people sees this coming and tried to think of ways to get around it they would start to buy gold and silver to use it in bartering for food and shelter, etc... I think what God is saying here is it will be a worthless attempt and possibly even dangerous. Read more..

James 5:1-8 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.

2Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.

3Your GOLD and SILVER is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together FOR THE LAST DAYS.

4Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.

5Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.

6Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.

7Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.

8Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.

You should think before you post.
izabadgirl
QUOTE(shaolinblade @ Oct 4 2009, 11:31 AM) *
Drivel like this is what turns moderate christians away from religion. Not all Christians are so wacked out that they believe this crap. I honestly pity the people who buy this shit, and even worse are the people who try and brainwash others into believing this crap.

This isn't Christianity, this is crazy, perverted, cult type mentality. Most Christians I know do not follow these kind of sick beliefs.

Before I joined QSS I had no idea people were this deranged when it came to Christianty. I know a lot of bad has happened in the world in the name of Christianity, but I also know most Christians (from a british perspective) are just peaceful people, not fearmongering, hate spewing, mental cases.

This kind of mentality is akin to the muslims who preach Jihad.

Some people need to take a step back and take a look at what they've become. It's never too late, you are in control of your own mind, the most powerful tool you possess, you need to use it, instead of following along with what you're being fed, by people who do not have your best interest at heart.



Then these Christians either don't take God's word seriously or they never read the bible or they don't discuss these issues with you knowing you will throw a hissy fit.
izabadgirl
QUOTE(litha @ Oct 4 2009, 11:51 PM) *
Its exactly the same, along with the Heavens gate cult,kamikaze pilots,Scientology and Jim Jones.


We've just had our Sunday sermon boys, God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. Hot Damn!
"A real Texan quote"



Heavens gate was a UFO nuts (not Christians) Kamikaze was atheist programed by their military to take a dive for their leader and country (not christian) Scientology more UFO the aliens are our descented masters crap (not Christians) Jim Jones was a atheist CIA informant communist (not christian) And God does love you that is why he is giving you prophecy. It's like if you was about to step in front of a speeding car and someone yelled at you to not step into the street, would you think that person cared or hated you?
morpheusprime
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 6 2009, 12:14 AM) *
can mean--What God is saying here is--that most likely means--perhaps?--I think what God is saying here is

You should think before you post
.


there is your problem. if "god said" it would be pretty clear. you would not have to guess what it says to fit your belief.
izabadgirl
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 5 2009, 11:32 PM) *
there is your problem. if "god said" it would be pretty clear. you would not have to guess what it says to fit your belief.


I sent this to 10 christians and wanted their input and they all came to the same conclusion I did. Oh and I did not give them my thoughts on it first. That is not just a coincidence. You all can not see it, because you live in darkness by your own choice. Try this...send or show this to some Christians and ask them for their opinion and see what they say?
morpheusprime
yes, they have already been told what to believe. starting when they were children.
BlackhawkNZ
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 6 2009, 05:14 PM) *
You should think before you post.


You need to learn how to think fullstop Iza.
izabadgirl
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Oct 5 2009, 11:53 PM) *
yes, they have already been told what to believe. starting when they were children.


Bull hocky!
Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens just to name a few grew up in a catholic home..Are they still catholic's?

People like Paul McGuire and Lee Strobel and William J. Murray grew up in a athesit home and yet?

How about Kids that grew up in Muslims homes?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus

This kids are brainwashed is nothing more then atheist propaganda!
izabadgirl
QUOTE(BlackhawkNZ @ Oct 6 2009, 12:41 AM) *
You need to learn how to think fullstop Iza.



You feel foolish agreeing with Star..don't you just hate it when I make you think! Thinking God was literally saying Gold turns to rust when it is very obvious they knew what gold is. You guys don't have no idea what parts of scripture as literal, parables or a metaphor? Talking about flying by the seat of your pants! LOL!!
BlackhawkNZ
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 6 2009, 06:41 PM) *
Bull hocky!
Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens just to name a few grew up in a catholic home..Are they still catholic's?

People like Paul McGuire and Lee Strobel and William J. Murray grew up in a athesit home and yet?

How about Kids that grew up in Muslims homes?
http://www.youtube.com/user/Muslims4Jesus

This kids are brainwashed is nothing more then atheist propaganda!


No Iza, there is no such thing as atheist "propaganda".

Do we need to cover the basics of atheism again Iza? Or should we start a fund so we can send you to school so you can learn a thing or two about logic and rational thinking?

When a child is taught, as soon as they can talk that god is real and that the bible is absolutely factual, that homosexuality is wrong, that sex is wrong, that non-believers are going to burn in eternity in hell, and that if they don't believe in god that they will do the same. That is brainwashing Iza. My parents were agnostic and they gave me all the options that a child could ever desire. I ended up an atheist because I started to ask questions. A child in a fundamentalist home such as yours doesn't have the luxury of choice because they have the bible forced upon them since they are born. They are not allowed to decide for themselves because people such as yourself tell them that if they do not believe, that your god will punish them to an eternity in fire and brimstone.

THAT Iza, is brainwashing. Fundamentalist christians and muslims and Jews etc etc etc are effectively brainwashing their children, putting the fear of god into them before they can even use logic and reason to look at the world around them. What parents such as you do to your children is reprehensible and is effectively CHILD ABUSE.

If you feel that this isn't true, I would love to see you refute this with an actual reasoned argument, rather than posting some idiotic videos from youtube that have NO physical evidence to back it's claims. The atheists, agnostics and even other moderate believers here on these boards use logic and reason to draw conclusions as well as within discussions.

So refute me Iza, use logic for once, rather than pulling some horrid scripture from your MAN MADE bible. Refute my statement with logical implications and reasoning.
BlackhawkNZ
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 4 2009, 09:29 PM) *
3Your GOLD and SILVER is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together FOR THE LAST DAYS.
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What Star was referring to Iza, was the highlighted part of your quote there. He was not referring to the "cankered" text. Again, the bible proves itself to be completely inaccurate.. as gold and silver do not RUST! But then, you will just come up with some sort of loose interpretation of what it means to cover your own ass.

Get an education.
Splenda26
QUOTE(Splenda26 @ Oct 4 2009, 02:46 PM) *
Question? So in Hinduism there are stories that predate the bible but are almost copies when you compare the 2 ,,, whats you feeling on that?

????
ultraforge
Hey guys. Seriously. A person is in this room saying that everyone on earth is going to be killed sometime soon... and she has daily contact with children. This is not a light matter. This is a real life dangerous situation.

She has almost certainly explained to her children that the world will be dead soon, and this creates a mentally abusive environment. Somewhere in the world there is a child absolutely convinced that the world is going to end. This is an absolute catastrophe to a child who's potential is limitless, which is now halted by a world that is "already dead". This is a cycle of abuse that is being perpetuated, and we have to all be polite because this abuse is in the name of religion?

Nope. I'm not going to even be the slightest bit polite about it.

This is atrocity. Programming your loved ones to believe in a murdered earth is absolutely disgusting. Using fear as a tool to shape a child's mind is abusive, plain and simple. Teachers are asking that child to care about the future of the planet, but the child doesn't even bother listening since that child has "the truth" about the fate of the planet.

What kind of a monster does this to a child? How responsible are we as bystanders when we tolerate such abuse on a daily basis? It makes me sick that this happens on a daily basis.
izabadgirl
QUOTE(ultraforge @ Oct 6 2009, 01:33 AM) *
Hey guys. Seriously. A person is in this room saying that everyone on earth is going to be killed sometime soon... and she has daily contact with children. This is not a light matter. This is a real life dangerous situation.

She has almost certainly explained to her children that the world will be dead soon, and this creates a mentally abusive environment. Somewhere in the world there is a child absolutely convinced that the world is going to end. This is an absolute catastrophe to a child who's potential is limitless, which is now halted by a world that is "already dead". This is a cycle of abuse that is being perpetuated, and we have to all be polite because this abuse is in the name of religion?

Nope. I'm not going to even be the slightest bit polite about it.

This is atrocity. Programming your loved ones to believe in a murdered earth is absolutely disgusting. Using fear as a tool to shape a child's mind is abusive, plain and simple. Teachers are asking that child to care about the future of the planet, but the child doesn't even bother listening since that child has "the truth" about the fate of the planet.

What kind of a monster does this to a child? How responsible are we as bystanders when we tolerate such abuse on a daily basis? It makes me sick that this happens on a daily basis.


And this comes from someone that thinks teaching children that witchcraft is a cool idea? You need help!
izabadgirl
QUOTE(BlackhawkNZ @ Oct 6 2009, 12:57 AM) *
What Star was referring to Iza, was the highlighted part of your quote there. He was not referring to the "cankered" text. Again, the bible proves itself to be completely inaccurate.. as gold and silver do not RUST! But then, you will just come up with some sort of loose interpretation of what it means to cover your own ass.

Get an education.



Another definition of rust is 4.any growth, habit, influence, or agency tending to injure, deteriorate, or impair the mind, character, abilities, usefulness, etc.
Get a dictionary!!
BlackhawkNZ
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 6 2009, 08:47 PM) *
Another definition of rust is 4.any growth, habit, influence, or agency tending to injure, deteriorate, or impair the mind, character, abilities, usefulness, etc.
Get a dictionary!!


And, as I guessed, you came up with a whole lot of cockamamy crap. This verse relates to the gold and silver rusting Iza. There is no other way to take it. It refers to those two metals rusting, which they don't.

Get an education for the second time!
shaolin
QUOTE(ultraforge @ Oct 6 2009, 07:33 AM) *
Hey guys. Seriously. A person is in this room saying that everyone on earth is going to be killed sometime soon... and she has daily contact with children. This is not a light matter. This is a real life dangerous situation.

She has almost certainly explained to her children that the world will be dead soon, and this creates a mentally abusive environment. Somewhere in the world there is a child absolutely convinced that the world is going to end. This is an absolute catastrophe to a child who's potential is limitless, which is now halted by a world that is "already dead". This is a cycle of abuse that is being perpetuated, and we have to all be polite because this abuse is in the name of religion?

Nope. I'm not going to even be the slightest bit polite about it.

This is atrocity. Programming your loved ones to believe in a murdered earth is absolutely disgusting. Using fear as a tool to shape a child's mind is abusive, plain and simple. Teachers are asking that child to care about the future of the planet, but the child doesn't even bother listening since that child has "the truth" about the fate of the planet.

What kind of a monster does this to a child? How responsible are we as bystanders when we tolerate such abuse on a daily basis? It makes me sick that this happens on a daily basis.


I find it troubling to think of what a young person might do, with the thought of the world about to soon end. The possibilities are very scary.
mark8
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 6 2009, 05:30 AM) *
Heavens gate was a UFO nuts (not Christians) Kamikaze was atheist programed by their military to take a dive for their leader and country (not christian) Scientology more UFO the aliens are our descented masters crap (not Christians) Jim Jones was a atheist CIA informant communist (not christian) And God does love you that is why he is giving you prophecy. It's like if you was about to step in front of a speeding car and someone yelled at you to not step into the street, would you think that person cared or hated you?


Heavens Gate were UFO nuts of the highest order, but they combined it with Christian beliefs like the book of revelation. All that good old apocalyptic stuff you get off on. They were a combination of irrational beliefs, Christian just being one amongst others such as New Age, UFO etc...

Kamikaze meaning "divine wind", kami is the word for "god", "spirit", or "divinity", and kaze for "wind", since an atheist does not believe there is a "god", "spirit" or "divinity" this is a silly statement to assert. The beliefs of these pilots had zero to do with a lack of belief in theism.

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Most people are aware of another dimension of Shinto as well: the Shinto of nationalism, imperial reverence, and ethnocentricity. It is the Shinto of kamikaze pilots and militarist fervor, the Shinto of a divine emperor leading a unique global mission for the Japanese nation and its people. It is the Shinto that dominated the international politics of the first half of the twentieth century.

http://www.uhpress.hawaii.edu/cart/shopcor...product_id=3386

Scientology, a classic example of how man-made irrationalities spread. It should make you think how your particular one came about, quite easily actually look up cargo cults for a further example.

Jim Jones an atheist, what because he was a communist? Please, next you'll be telling me those Russian Orthodox Christians are atheists just because they subscribed to communism also.

Because your imaginary dad in the sky couldn't think of a better way to communicate, other than have men write the vaguest of scribblings in a bronze age text. The same vagueness (prophecy) that Muslims claim is in their book, that Hindu's claim about theirs, mormons.... an on and on ad naseum.
He'd be better off providing empiricle evidence, since he's supposed to be omnipotent that shouldn't be a problem, or does your sky daddy willingly like to be elusive and facetious.
Skamp
QUOTE(BlackhawkNZ @ Oct 6 2009, 06:57 AM) *
What Star was referring to Iza, was the highlighted part of your quote there. He was not referring to the "cankered" text. Again, the bible proves itself to be completely inaccurate.. as gold and silver do not RUST! But then, you will just come up with some sort of loose interpretation of what it means to cover your own ass.

Get an education.


Maybe the Homosexual Scottish King wanted his underlings to think that any Gold or Silver they managed to get there hands on (stole) would rust so they'd be better off giving it to him/Church.

Iza Worships a book that was dictated by a Homosexual emoticon-0140-rofl.gif
litha
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 5 2009, 11:30 PM) *
Heavens gate was a UFO nuts (not Christians) Kamikaze was atheist programed by their military to take a dive for their leader and country (not christian) Scientology more UFO the aliens are our descented masters crap (not Christians) Jim Jones was a atheist CIA informant communist (not christian) And God does love you that is why he is giving you prophecy. It's like if you was about to step in front of a speeding car and someone yelled at you to not step into the street, would you think that person cared or hated you?


They are all the same hun, all follow blindly with out really thinking.
ultraforge
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And this comes from someone that thinks teaching children that witchcraft is a cool idea? You need help!

Touche'. I DO want my child to learn witchcraft.... AND Buddhism.... AND Hinduism.... AND Taoism... AND Christianity, etc. Anyone who learns that these are all valid forms of spirituality will not obsess over any one particular option.

Welcome to the wonderful world of empowering your child... not terrifying it.
Serena517b
Thank you Iza for the links. I truly appreciate all the links that you post. I am an old woman, but my faith will not leave me. Don't let people try to make you lose you faith. They all laughed when Noah got on the ARK but they weren't laughing after the rains started. " As in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of man". Not the exact words but close enough. Satan likes to laugh and scoff at servants of GOD. That's okay Iza because you , myself and people such as us have peace within. Satan tries so hard to prove that the BIBLE isn't true, but I know that it is. I also know that when Jesus returns he will make all truth known. So if there are parts missing from the scriptures as some claim, that our GOD will have his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON make sure that we have all the truth upon his return. I believe the Bible is true, I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and I believe that he will return which will be sooner than most people think. angel.gif
starfkr
QUOTE(mark8 @ Oct 6 2009, 05:15 AM) *
Heavens Gate were UFO nuts of the highest order, but they combined it with Christian beliefs like the book of revelation. All that good old apocalyptic stuff you get off on. They were a combination of irrational beliefs, Christian just being one amongst others such as New Age, UFO etc...

Kamikaze meaning "divine wind", kami is the word for "god", "spirit", or "divinity", and kaze for "wind", since an atheist does not believe there is a "god", "spirit" or "divinity" this is a silly statement to assert. The beliefs of these pilots had zero to do with a lack of belief in theism.
http://www.uhpress.hawaii.edu/cart/shopcor...product_id=3386

Scientology, a classic example of how man-made irrationalities spread. It should make you think how your particular one came about, quite easily actually look up cargo cults for a further example.

Jim Jones an atheist, what because he was a communist? Please, next you'll be telling me those Russian Orthodox Christians are atheists just because they subscribed to communism also.

Because your imaginary dad in the sky couldn't think of a better way to communicate, other than have men write the vaguest of scribblings in a bronze age text. The same vagueness (prophecy) that Muslims claim is in their book, that Hindu's claim about theirs, mormons.... an on and on ad naseum.
He'd be better off providing empiricle evidence, since he's supposed to be omnipotent that shouldn't be a problem, or does your sky daddy willingly like to be elusive and facetious.


I think IZA should research 2 things, the history of the Wiccan religion and the Necronomicon. Both can show evidence of how religions are created, how believers invent a false history, and how such beliefs spread.

In the case of Wicca, a neo-pagan nature-based religion which was formed by Gerald Gardner in the 1950's, believers have created this false history that spans thousands of years with the belief that there existed a secret underground pagan religion of Europe that somehow survived the onslaught of Christianity. Of course this belief is bull shit.

With the Necronomicon, we know for a historical fact that such was a literary device that existed only in the ficiton of H.P. Lovecraft. Lovecraft admits to creating the Necornomicon to use to tie his stories together. For some strange reason the belief that the Necronomicon is a real book continues to be spread to this day. Among the believers, Fundamentalist Christians rank in high numbers, who believe the book to be akin to "The Devil's Bible", a tome passed among evil Satanists which can uleash devesating evil powerful enough to destroy the world yet can be bought in most bookstores for around $4.99 in paperback! LOL

It's all fake IZA. All of it.
starfkr
QUOTE(Serena517b @ Oct 6 2009, 08:39 PM) *
Thank you Iza for the links. I truly appreciate all the links that you post. I am an old woman, but my faith will not leave me. Don't let people try to make you lose you faith. They all laughed when Noah got on the ARK but they weren't laughing after the rains started. " As in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of man". Not the exact words but close enough. Satan likes to laugh and scoff at servants of GOD. That's okay Iza because you , myself and people such as us have peace within. Satan tries so hard to prove that the BIBLE isn't true, but I know that it is. I also know that when Jesus returns he will make all truth known. So if there are parts missing from the scriptures as some claim, that our GOD will have his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON make sure that we have all the truth upon his return. I believe the Bible is true, I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and I believe that he will return which will be sooner than most people think. angel.gif


"They all laughed when Noah got on the ARK"

Yes, and everybody cheered when Spiderman saved the day. What's the point. It's not real.
BlackhawkNZ
QUOTE(Serena517b @ Oct 7 2009, 02:39 PM) *
Thank you Iza for the links. I truly appreciate all the links that you post. I am an old woman, but my faith will not leave me. Don't let people try to make you lose you faith. They all laughed when Noah got on the ARK but they weren't laughing after the rains started. " As in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of man". Not the exact words but close enough. Satan likes to laugh and scoff at servants of GOD. That's okay Iza because you , myself and people such as us have peace within. Satan tries so hard to prove that the BIBLE isn't true, but I know that it is. I also know that when Jesus returns he will make all truth known. So if there are parts missing from the scriptures as some claim, that our GOD will have his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON make sure that we have all the truth upon his return. I believe the Bible is true, I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and I believe that he will return which will be sooner than most people think. angel.gif


Wake up and smell reality. Sorry to be so blunt to a newbie on the boards. But honestly. Wake up.

Noah wasn't real, just as the ark wasn't real (yeeeah, because they could fit TWO of every living creature on earth into a boat.. uuuuh huh.). There is no geological evidence for the flood. Also, there is growing doubt regarding Jesus' existence as well. The bible is full of inaccuracies that people such as yourself seem to be willingly blind to. Open up those eyes of yours, pry open that long closed consciousness and start viewing the world in reality.

Start asking questions. If there is NO physical evidence to back biblical claims, then why do you believe it? You would probably say something along the lines of "I feel god, jesus and the holy spirit inside me", where-as that is more than likely gas moving along down to your bowels.

Why believe something that has no evidence? It is just ridiculous, absolute insanity.
izabadgirl
QUOTE(Serena517b @ Oct 6 2009, 08:39 PM) *
Thank you Iza for the links. I truly appreciate all the links that you post. I am an old woman, but my faith will not leave me. Don't let people try to make you lose you faith. They all laughed when Noah got on the ARK but they weren't laughing after the rains started. " As in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of man". Not the exact words but close enough. Satan likes to laugh and scoff at servants of GOD. That's okay Iza because you , myself and people such as us have peace within. Satan tries so hard to prove that the BIBLE isn't true, but I know that it is. I also know that when Jesus returns he will make all truth known. So if there are parts missing from the scriptures as some claim, that our GOD will have his ONLY BEGOTTEN SON make sure that we have all the truth upon his return. I believe the Bible is true, I believe that Jesus Christ died for my sins and I believe that he will return which will be sooner than most people think. angel.gif



Thank you Serena for your kind words. emoticon-0109-kiss.gif I will post more shortly. As far as any QSS ungodly members comments here, it doesn't really bother me. What they say is also prophesied and they don't have the wisdom to make me lose my faith, they only encourage my faith more.
starfkr
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 12 2009, 02:09 PM) *
Thank you Serena for your kind words. emoticon-0109-kiss.gif I will post more shortly. As far as any QSS ungodly members comments here, it doesn't really bother me. What they say is also prophesied and they don't have the wisdom to make me lose my faith, they only encourage my faith more.


IZA, please answer me this question.

Assuming you could live forever, after how long without Jesus coming back would it take for you to realize that Christianity, as well as all other religions, are false?

Would it be a hundred years? Another thousand? A million?

At what point would you realize that Jesus isn't coming back because religion is false? I mean, it's been 2,000+ years since Jesus supposedly lived and he hasn't come back yet, even though he promised his disciples that he would return when they were still alive, a prophecy that did not come true by the way. And don't sit there and claim that Jesus is coming back soon, because nearly every generation of Christians believed they would be alive when Jesus came back. They looked at "the signs" too and determined he was coming back soon as well. -And guess what? They all went to the grave.

So, how long would it take IZA? A billion years from now, assuming you could live forever, would you still believe that Jesus is going to return one day?
dudeamis
about time, I've been getting bored here.
ultraforge
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What they say is also prophesied and they don't have the wisdom to make me lose my faith, they only encourage my faith more.

This is true. One's faith is only bolstered in the face of reality.

You see.... the supernatural, by definition, cannot in any way be supported by natural observation. You have not even a shred of a good reason to believe in any of the over 2500 currently available gods. You chose your god because it was on readily available to you, due to the time in history you were born and your geographical location.

You now find yourself with fact after fact after fact after fact presented to you which flies in the face of your absurd bronze age reasoning. If you wish to remain faithful to your invisible creature.... the course of action is simple...

... BELIEVE IN HIM EVEN MORE!


That right. You just put the blinders on a little tighter, develop even stronger denial techniques, settle even more of your cognitive dissonance and even more closely embrace your confirmation bias. You are a faith machine... and yes.... people everyday improve their ability to deny reason. You are living proof of that technique.







You will probably say that all the skeptics do the same, while denying the abundance of "evidence" you have supporting your particular post-Catholic Jewish deity. The truth is, you are not very well educated on your own deity, let alone your own bible. Most of the people here have read more of the bible than you ever will, and have delved into the MASSIVE real life historical knowledge of your religion.

Besides... all this conversation is relativity useless, if not entertaining. The very definition of "falling on dead ears". You think we are all dead anyways.... and most people here think you are brain dead.... so either way we can expect very little to come from this debate.




All that aside.... if you threaten my life and my families life with your god and his prophecies even one more time I am going to stop being as polite as I am here on the boards. I am a moral human being who would have every child raised with an open mind and limitless potential. Teaching a child that the world will soon be dead is abusive, and is in breech of your responsibilities as a parent.

Stop bursting into the room waving your god around like a loaded gun. Even tho you are no doubt terrified, just as you have terrified your own family, we are not. You just look like a sad and angry and greatly limited woman who wishes death and torture on people who disagree with her.... and that is the very definition of mentally unstable.

Please get professional diagnosis and treatment.
starfkr
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Fear Is The Mother Of All Gods, Nature Does All Things Without Their Meddling.
-Titus Lucretius Carus (c.99-55 BCE)
hasnain
QUOTE(starfkr @ Oct 12 2009, 11:23 PM) *
IZA, please answer me this question.

Assuming you could live forever, after how long without Jesus coming back would it take for you to realize that Christianity, as well as all other religions, are false?

Would it be a hundred years? Another thousand? A million?

At what point would you realize that Jesus isn't coming back because religion is false? I mean, it's been 2,000+ years since Jesus supposedly lived and he hasn't come back yet, even though he promised his disciples that he would return when they were still alive, a prophecy that did not come true by the way. And don't sit there and claim that Jesus is coming back soon, because nearly every generation of Christians believed they would be alive when Jesus came back. They looked at "the signs" too and determined he was coming back soon as well. -And guess what? They all went to the grave.

So, how long would it take IZA? A billion years from now, assuming you could live forever, would you still believe that Jesus is going to return one day?

Srry, so let me get this straight If I got this thing right. Atheist believe "jesus" was a myth. wacko.gif
starfkr
QUOTE(hasnain @ Oct 13 2009, 12:09 PM) *
Srry, so let me get this straight If I got this thing right. Atheist believe "jesus" was a myth. wacko.gif



Um...No. Atheists don't believe in God(s). Some Atheists believe Jesus never existed. Some Athesits believe that he did or might have existed but deny any claims to his supposed divinity.

Seriously, how could you have not know that?
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