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starfkr


The celelbration of Halloween is hundreds of years old, yet few know its origins. What is it, and what do the symbols represent?

PART 1

PART 2

PART 3

PART 4

FYI: Carol Kornacki is a self-described former "ex-Witch" now "born-again" Christian. Her history of Halloween is 100% wrong and it is classic-fear mongering.
Almost as soon as she starts speaking wrong information comes spewing out of her mouth. Isn't it ironic that these people who claim "Truth" see no problem
with lying and spreading false information?
morpheusprime
QUOTE(starfkr @ Sep 29 2009, 10:58 PM) *
Almost as soon as she starts speaking wrong information comes spewing out of her mouth.


OMG! almost? i don't think she had anything right. blood drinking evil druids carving pumpkins in relation to virgin sacrifice. neato! they knew how to party on the holidays!
she is like a bad neighbor that you try to avoid.
starfkr
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Sep 30 2009, 02:52 AM) *
OMG! almost? i don't think she had anything right. blood drinking evil druids carving pumpkins in relation to virgin sacrifice. neato! they knew how to party on the holidays!
she is like a bad neighbor that you try to avoid.


I know. And the uploader blocked me so I cannot comment to correct the false information.

For example, in clip 3 she says that the word "bonfire" means "bone fire", as in human sacrifice. It's a flat out lie. The term comes from middle english or even French,
"bon fire" meaning great or large fire.

Yeah, the part about how it is "proven" that Druids drank blood is hilarious. LOL

These people have no clue. They claim they are on the side of "Truth" but then freely lie, decieve, and pass on false information.


starfkr
QUOTE(morpheusprime @ Sep 30 2009, 02:52 AM) *
OMG! almost? i don't think she had anything right. blood drinking evil druids carving pumpkins in relation to virgin sacrifice. neato! they knew how to party on the holidays!
she is like a bad neighbor that you try to avoid.


LOL...not to mention that Druids didn't even know what a pumpkin was! (Pumpkins native to the Americas!)
paulwill
In the first 20 seconds as soon as she said "stone hedge when its STONE HENGE that was enough for me lol
izabadgirl
I don't think the ancient Druids was as innocent as you think.
While other Roman writers of the time, such as Cicero, Suetonius, Lucan, Tacitus and Pliny the Elder, described human sacrifice among the Celts, only Caesar mentions the wicker man as one of many ways the Druids of Gaul performed sacrifices.[3] Not having witnessed the ritual himself, Caesar reports that some of the Gauls built the effigies out of sticks and placed living men inside, then set them on fire to pay tribute to the gods. Caesar writes that though the Druids generally used thieves and criminals, as they pleased the gods more, they sometimes used innocent men when no delinquents could be found.

While some modern authors like Barry Cunliffe, author of The Ancient Celts are convinced that the Druids practiced human sacrifice[4], others dispute Caesar's accounts as repeating a sensationalistic rumor as propaganda to encourage his supporters back home. By the first century AD, human sacrifice "was a thing of the past" among the Celts.[5] One medieval commentary, the 10th century Commenta Bernensia, states that men were burned in a wooden manikin in sacrifice to Taranis.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicker_man

Archaeological evidence

Druidic associations with the ritual deaths of some of the bog bodies recovered in the British Isles and northern Europe from the Netherlands to Denmark, presented by Anne Ross[43] is resisted by some historians, such as Jane Webster, who asserted in 1999, "individual druids (let alone druid princes) are unlikely to be identified archaeologically"[44] A.P. Fitzpatrick, in examining astral symbolism on Late Iron Age swords[45] has expressed difficulties in relating any material culture, even the Coligny calendar, with druidic culture. Slain bodies as far east as Celtic Galatia and elsewhere in Northern and Western Europe are widely cited as evidence of human sacrifice.[46]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid

http://www.geocities.com/druidhe/romans.html

BlackhawkNZ
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 2 2009, 01:10 PM) *
I don't think the ancient Druids was as innocent as you think.
While other Roman writers of the time, such as Cicero, Suetonius, Lucan, Tacitus and Pliny the Elder, described human sacrifice among the Celts, only Caesar mentions the wicker man as one of many ways the Druids of Gaul performed sacrifices.[3] Not having witnessed the ritual himself, Caesar reports that some of the Gauls built the effigies out of sticks and placed living men inside, then set them on fire to pay tribute to the gods. Caesar writes that though the Druids generally used thieves and criminals, as they pleased the gods more, they sometimes used innocent men when no delinquents could be found.

While some modern authors like Barry Cunliffe, author of The Ancient Celts are convinced that the Druids practiced human sacrifice[4], others dispute Caesar's accounts as repeating a sensationalistic rumor as propaganda to encourage his supporters back home. By the first century AD, human sacrifice "was a thing of the past" among the Celts.[5] One medieval commentary, the 10th century Commenta Bernensia, states that men were burned in a wooden manikin in sacrifice to Taranis.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicker_man

Archaeological evidence

Druidic associations with the ritual deaths of some of the bog bodies recovered in the British Isles and northern Europe from the Netherlands to Denmark, presented by Anne Ross[43] is resisted by some historians, such as Jane Webster, who asserted in 1999, "individual druids (let alone druid princes) are unlikely to be identified archaeologically"[44] A.P. Fitzpatrick, in examining astral symbolism on Late Iron Age swords[45] has expressed difficulties in relating any material culture, even the Coligny calendar, with druidic culture. Slain bodies as far east as Celtic Galatia and elsewhere in Northern and Western Europe are widely cited as evidence of human sacrifice.[46]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid

http://www.geocities.com/druidhe/romans.html


Mmmm hmm, because christianity has always been so angelic and loving. How about the inquisition Iza? When christians used to burn innocent women because of their retarded fear of witches, or even burning non-believers for blaspheming?
izabadgirl
QUOTE(BlackhawkNZ @ Oct 1 2009, 07:52 PM) *
Mmmm hmm, because christianity has always been so angelic and loving. How about the inquisition Iza? When christians used to burn innocent women because of their retarded fear of witches, or even burning non-believers for blaspheming?


What about the inquisition? These where roman catholics that sent that horror..not christians. Seems like none of you ever mention the fact the Romans catholics slaughtered thousands of Christians that actually tried to follow what Jesus taught. Also find it pretty arrogant how you are changing the subject here off the Druids?
BlackhawkNZ
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 2 2009, 02:02 PM) *
What about the inquisition? These where roman catholics that sent that horror..not christians. Seems like none of you ever mention the fact the Romans catholics slaughtered thousands of Christians that actually tried to follow what Jesus taught. Also find it pretty arrogant how you are changing the subject here off the Druids?


Ha! Not really Iza, Roman Catholics ARE christians. But whatever, you keep living in this little perfect moral bubble that you live in, believing in talking snakes and donkeys. The fact of the matter is that CHRISTIANS slaughtered thousands of innocent people. Just because the christians were of a different denomination from you, does not excuse what they did or excuse you from believing in the same warped ideas and fantasies that they do/did.
Bam76
-Hey look at that cloud.

-Yeah, it looks like a truck.

-No, it looks like a puppy.

-No, it looks like a turck and I'll prove it. See the front of the cloud? That is the hood of the truck.

-That doesn't prove anything! It is a puppy and I'll prove it. See the back of the cloud? That is the puppy's tail.

-Are you insane? That doesn't prove anything! It's a damn truck.

-NO!!! It is a puppy. I'm right and your just to biased toward a truck to admit it! All you wanna see is a truck and that is why you see a truck.

-Why would I be biased towards a truck? It IS a truck. You just have puppies on your mind and that is why you see a puppy.

-No, I'm not! You are!

-No, I'm not! You are!


Anyone else see what is going on here?
morpheusprime
christian missionary atrocities
christian atrocities

Iza,
don't be so to quick to blame others.

we know very little about the druids. most of what we know comes from the very little writing the Romans did on them. (always take the conqueror's word with a grain or two of salt) when people say things about the druids and claim it as fact, they are incorrect. nobody really knows. even your own post supports that.
starfkr
QUOTE(izabadgirl @ Oct 1 2009, 07:10 PM) *
I don't think the ancient Druids was as innocent as you think.
While other Roman writers of the time, such as Cicero, Suetonius, Lucan, Tacitus and Pliny the Elder, described human sacrifice among the Celts, only Caesar mentions the wicker man as one of many ways the Druids of Gaul performed sacrifices.[3] Not having witnessed the ritual himself, Caesar reports that some of the Gauls built the effigies out of sticks and placed living men inside, then set them on fire to pay tribute to the gods. Caesar writes that though the Druids generally used thieves and criminals, as they pleased the gods more, they sometimes used innocent men when no delinquents could be found.

While some modern authors like Barry Cunliffe, author of The Ancient Celts are convinced that the Druids practiced human sacrifice[4], others dispute Caesar's accounts as repeating a sensationalistic rumor as propaganda to encourage his supporters back home. By the first century AD, human sacrifice "was a thing of the past" among the Celts.[5] One medieval commentary, the 10th century Commenta Bernensia, states that men were burned in a wooden manikin in sacrifice to Taranis.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicker_man

Archaeological evidence

Druidic associations with the ritual deaths of some of the bog bodies recovered in the British Isles and northern Europe from the Netherlands to Denmark, presented by Anne Ross[43] is resisted by some historians, such as Jane Webster, who asserted in 1999, "individual druids (let alone druid princes) are unlikely to be identified archaeologically"[44] A.P. Fitzpatrick, in examining astral symbolism on Late Iron Age swords[45] has expressed difficulties in relating any material culture, even the Coligny calendar, with druidic culture. Slain bodies as far east as Celtic Galatia and elsewhere in Northern and Western Europe are widely cited as evidence of human sacrifice.[46]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid

http://www.geocities.com/druidhe/romans.html



Actually IZA, I agree that the Druids probably did perform sacrifice, or at least were present. (One historian said that a Druid must be present for any type of sacrifice, not that the Druid actually performed the sacrifice, kink of like just to watch to make sure things are done correctly, their version of "kosher".)

However, this aside, nearly every single culture on earth has practiced human sacrifice. Acutally, I can't even thing of one culture who hasn't practice human sacrifice at one point.

But we all know that Christianity is founded on human sacrifice, and before them the Jews practiced humans sacrifice, or at least one accoutn of it is listed in Judges.

But seriously, why the hatred toward Halloween? I'll tell you.

THINLY VEILED ANTI-CATHOLIC SENTIMENT

Sure, Halloween has pagan origins, like every other Holiday, but Halloween is also directly conncted to Catholicism (All Saint's Day). Protestants, disbelieving in saints, have no need for the holiday, which is why it remains completley secular.

There is no harm in celebrating Halloween. It's a nice and fun holiday for children (and adults like me!) to celebrate.

I for one am tired of all the lies and B.S. from fear-mongering paranoid Christians who try to demonize the holiday as being Pagan and Satanic while turning around and decorating their homes with Christmas trees, wreathes, and beautiful lights come December.

(FYI: I have no problem with Christians who don't celebrate Halloween, Christmas, or Easter. I actually like how they are not hypocrites and don't celebrate any of the holidays, unlike those hypocrite Christians who celebrate all the holidays except Halloween.)
Crispy
So this lady is a 'Born again" Christian? Hmmmmm.......Well I guess that has a more socially acceptable ring to it then "I'm a chronic screw up".
I don't see much of a difference though.
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