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SYLver
WOW i mean WOW, this movie was great! but the ending was ..
pujal
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WOW i mean WOW, this movie was great! but the ending was ..


Spectacular! And if you remembered the explanation about why those 3 people survived it makes perfect sense.
SYLver
QUOTE(pujal @ Aug 6 2008, 02:32 PM) *
Spectacular! And if you remembered the explanation about why those 3 people survived it makes perfect sense.


I know why they survived, but still i want to see more, biggrin.gif nice ending neither the less.. smile.gif
ladyhawk
Watched it last night and thought it was very good. I wish I could discuss what I think the ending meant. Will PM someone from this post to see what they think...
scifan
Long time not seen ... *sobber* , that the DVD-Rip is gone. dry.gif

I was very impressed the first time, I saw Quiet Earth. So little efforts and sooo scary. And the music is also exciting.

By the way: The great opening theme (Sunrise) / end theme (Finale: Saturn Rising) can be found here:
The Quiet Earth (John Charles)

Played by the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra (in the original conducted by William Southgate) it contains a complete 3:27 min. audio track.

In WMplayer the track is numbered as AudioTrack01. So there is a chance, that it is "Sunrise" from the original motion picture soundtrack.
scifan
QUOTE(ladyhawk @ Aug 9 2008, 03:47 PM) *
Watched it last night and thought it was very good. I wish, I could discuss what I think the ending meant. Will PM someone from this post to see what they think...


Great idea, but isn't there a forum for that sort of discussion? (* General Discussion *) I don't want to bother anyone, but I've occasionally got friendly advices from the board administrators about dos and don'ts in the link fora. (* Or was it forums? If devil always sh*ts on the greatest heap, it has to be forums, nes pas. *)

I'd like to start with a look on Zac Hobson's face at the very end. I think, it has all in its expression Joanne and Api critisied about "man's world" and esp. the so called "white man's world" but it also has all its qualities. (* OK, "they" have ruined the world as we know it. unsure.gif *)

To me it says: What's that? How did it work (to bring me here)? Can it be measured? Can I have a closer look? - No thinking about what he (* Hobson *) has left or lost.

... and by the way: The links are still dead, except Youtube a day ago. I've painstakingly downloaded all pieces from Youtube. (* Thanks to SYLver *)
SYLver
About the ending: biggrin.gif

My strong guess is the same thing happened all over again: instead of him being killed and the laboratory destroyed, preventing the "effect" as it was planned, he failed. The "effect" took place too early (you see the sun going black and everything BEFORE he blows up the truck). So AGAIN he's killed as the effects takes place, and this time he really is the sole survivor. The clouds and saturn and everything don't mean he's on a different planet, it's just a way to show that physics have gone even more awkward then before: He's still on earth, but the UNIVERSE has changed. Hope that helps, but i could be wrong,
DaveC
QUOTE(scifan @ Aug 17 2008, 11:00 PM) *
Great idea, but isn't there a forum for that sort of discussion? (* General Discussion *) I don't want to bother anyone, but I've occasionally got friendly advices from the board administrators about dos and don'ts in the link fora. (* Or was it forums? If devil always sh*ts on the greatest heap, it has to be forums, nes pas. *)

I'd like to start with a look on Zac Hobson's face at the very end. I think, it has all in its expression Joanne and Api critisied about "man's world" and esp. the so called "white man's world" but it also has all its qualities. (* OK, "they" have ruined the world as we know it. unsure.gif *)

To me it says: What's that? How did it work (to bring me here)? Can it be measured? Can I have a closer look? - No thinking about what he (* Hobson *) has left or lost.

... and by the way: The links are still dead, except Youtube a day ago. I've painstakingly downloaded all pieces from Youtube. (* Thanks to SYLver *)


It really is fora ;-) tongue.gif

A great movie, but the end makes me wanna see more...
ladyhawk
QUOTE(DaveC @ Aug 17 2008, 06:57 PM) *
It really is fora ;-) tongue.gif

A great movie, but the end makes me wanna see more...



I know, I feel the same way. It's movies like this that I wish I could ask the director what he was thinking. Only he can tell us what the hell really happened...(unless we ask the author of the book, Craig harrison (or read it!)

Revealing mistakes (per IMDB): Although they tried to not include scenes with animals or activity in the background, one stray animal did make it into the film. When Zak is driving up the road right after leaving the gas station, a little black bird flies from the left of the screen and rests on a telephone pole.
scifan
QUOTE(ladyhawk @ Aug 19 2008, 06:14 PM) *
... (unless we ask the author of the book, Craig harrison (or read it!) ...


I'd love to, but on amazon.com the cheapest offer is 2,000.00 $ (* ... no joke. *) And that's only a used one. blink.gif
scifan
QUOTE(DaveC @ Aug 17 2008, 10:57 PM) *
It really is fora ;-) tongue.gif

A great movie, but the end makes me wanna see more...


Thanks for the clarification. And: I'm not sure, that you really want to see more. Of course, if you like mainstream movie productions, have a look at this trailer.

On the german version of wikipedia is stated, that this movie is a remake of "The Quiet Earth" as a comedy! (* Who had ever thought about such a twisted turn after the original movie, but "what the *bleep* do we (k)now?" *)
OUTRIGHT
QUOTE(scifan @ Aug 19 2008, 08:53 PM) *
I'd love to, but on amazon.com the cheapest offer is 2,000.00 $ (* ... no joke. *) And that's only a used one. blink.gif


Totally true. I will tell you that this film intrigued me ever since the first time i saw it. Also because i was about 9 or 10 when i did see it, i spent part of my juvenile years searching for it as silent earth.... i did get a few leads and i had finally managed to track it 4 years ago.... i checked for the book on amazon, and it does cost 2000 dollars.. i checked on the internet and i cant find an ebook version... i am intrigued to read it ... nooone puts a book up for 2K with no good reason, so letīs all pull together and find it. If anyone has info on the book or ebook please PM me. thanx.

Also, Slyver your point of view on the ending makes a lot of sense, however i still think that perhaps we are seeing... well you know..a jump
scifan
QUOTE(OUTRIGHT @ Aug 19 2008, 07:49 PM) *
i checked on the internet and i cant find an ebook version... i am intrigued to read it ...


If you're really obsessed, don't think so digital. The analog world still exists. biggrin.gif

Walk into your next neighborhood university library ... ask for it (Title: The quiet earth, Author: Harrison, Craig, Publisher: Hodder & Stoughton Auckland, N.Z., Published: 1981, ISBN: 0340265078) ... They will get it for you, even if they have to order it from Auckland University Library / New Zealand ... read it ... and if it's worth the effort, scan it and tell the world. (* Which means upload it to the usual, suspicious filehosters. Maybe you're doing a good work for literary community, if the book isn't printed anymore, otherwise you're just another copyright pirate. *)
OUTRIGHT
problem is I live in spain sad.gif.... so there are a few issues..
scifan
QUOTE(OUTRIGHT @ Aug 20 2008, 08:42 AM) *
problem is I live in spain sad.gif.... so there are a few issues..


And there are no universities in Spain? Wasn't there at least the famous old University of Salamanca, one of the oldest in the known universe?
OUTRIGHT
QUOTE(scifan @ Aug 20 2008, 09:22 PM) *
And there are no universities in Spain? Wasn't there at least the famous old University of Salamanca, one of the oldest in the known universe?


Your right!
I shall embark on an adventure. I shall cross the mediterenean sea, get to the mainland and roadtrip to the university... then i shall request a copy of the book, and will be back there when they receive it. In the mean time i will take the necesary time off work, say goodbye to my wife, pat my dog on the head, and wave then goodbye at the train station as i embark on my journey. Whilst im there, i shall also take on the path of santiago.

I will be back feeling like a new man, and i will say goodbye to the good old internet and all of lifes little comforts.
tongue.gif

Although you might have a point, life, is complicated enough dont you think?
If i find it on the internet, i will give you guys a link
scifan
QUOTE(OUTRIGHT @ Aug 20 2008, 07:32 PM) *
... and i will say goodbye to the good old internet and all of lifes little comforts. ...


Dont' be to hard to yourself. Maybe we have to live with the fact, that some things didn't make it to the Internet.
ladyhawk
you are so funny, outright! i laughed out loud when i read your reply. you can think of the journey as your own "quiet earth," moving along in solitude toward you final destination...

I think in the flick he did succeed, or else the earth would have been destroyed by the sun going nova...
scifan
QUOTE(ladyhawk @ Aug 20 2008, 11:52 PM) *
... you can think of the journey as your own "quiet earth," moving along in solitude toward you final destination...


The thought crossed my mind, but just when I elaborted it on my keyboard, my ISP decided to shut me down for network maintenance reasons. (* I felt like Zac Hobson for a minute. dry.gif *)

QUOTE(ladyhawk @ Aug 20 2008, 11:52 PM) *
I think in the flick he did succeed, or else the earth would have been destroyed by the sun going nova...


Regarding all infos from the film, not knowing what Harrison has to say in his book, it is Saturn and no other planet, galaxy, universe or else.

The most likely moon from Zac Hobson's perspective is Titan. Titan has an atmospheric nitrogen based own and stable athmosphere. There are reasonable assumptions of great ammounts of frozen water on the moon.

I think, the earth was destroyed and the Sun reached a late state of stellar evolution, a red giant (nop, no chance that our sun will go supernova at any time. It will be most likely a white dwarf in a far future.) which radius will reach the orbit of Venus. The ice on Titan melts and the good old evolution engine starts again. Hobson was shifted in Space and Time by the effect and has a grandios view of a new stage of life.

I wish, that his final insights of life, the universe and the rest are: "Life is a beach!" biggrinjester.gif
ScienceFictionado
QUOTE(scifan @ Aug 23 2008, 04:16 AM) *
The thought crossed my mind, but just when I elaborted it on my keyboard, my ISP decided to shut me down for network maintenance reasons. (* I felt like Zac Hobson for a minute. dry.gif *)
Regarding all infos from the film, not knowing what Harrison has to say in his book, it is Saturn and no other planet, galaxy, universe or else.

The most likely moon from Zac Hobson's perspective is Titan. Titan has an atmospheric nitrogen based own and stable athmosphere. There are reasonable assumptions of great ammounts of frozen water on the moon.

I think, the earth was destroyed and the Sun reached a late state of stellar evolution, a red giant (nop, no chance that our sun will go supernova at any time. It will be most likely a white dwarf in a far future.) which radius will reach the orbit of Venus. The ice on Titan melts and the good old evolution engine starts again. Hobson was shifted in Space and Time by the effect and has a grandios view of a new stage of life.

I wish, that his final insights of life, the universe and the rest are: "Life is a beach!" biggrinjester.gif


Intriguing conclusion, but who's grandios view of a new stage of life would include such a bald head ?
ladyhawk
Bald is sexy and beautiful...Long live Captain Jean Luc Picard!

scifan
QUOTE(ladyhawk @ Sep 14 2008, 12:58 PM) *
Bald is sexy and beautiful...Long live Captain Jean Luc Picard!


'Greed ... cool.gif

Persis Khambatta (died in 1998) as Lt. Ilia in Star Trek - The Motion Picture


Tasty little head ... wub.gif
scifan
QUOTE(ScienceFictionado @ Sep 14 2008, 03:04 AM) *
Intriguing conclusion, but who's grandios view of a new stage of life would include such a bald head ?


It doesn't matter. Without foot and drinking water, he won't stay for just more than a few days. At least the building blocks of his own life could give the evolution on this moon a ... hhhmm ... head start? laugh.gif
ScienceFictionado
QUOTE(scifan @ Sep 20 2008, 01:57 PM) *
It doesn't matter. Without foot and drinking water, he won't stay for just more than a few days. At least the building blocks of his own life could give the evolution on this moon a ... hhhmm ... head start? laugh.gif


There is bald:

And then there is bald:
scifan
QUOTE(ScienceFictionado @ Sep 14 2008, 03:04 AM) *
... but who's grandios view of a new stage of life would include such a bald head ?


OK, this was a serious question and the man deserves an elaborated answer:

We don't know! But why is that?

All interpretations regarding the movie are flawed. We know, through different critics from various websites, that the movie didn't reach the original novell from Craig Harrison in different aspects. But nobody knows or explains why or at least in wich way.

Maybe you are the one, who pays $2,000 (* the price has increased since my last visit) and tell us.
ladyhawk
QUOTE(scifan @ Sep 21 2008, 04:08 PM) *
OK, this was a serious question and the man deserves an elaborated answer:

We don't know! But why is that?

All interpretations regarding the movie are flawed. We know, through different critics from various websites, that the movie didn't reach the original novell from Craig Harrison in different aspects. But nobody knows or explains why or at least in wich way.

Maybe you are the one, who pays $2,000 (* the price has increased since my last visit) and tell us.



I enjoy movies, scifan, where the story and what is going on is open to interpretation (albeit at times it is extremely frustrating!)...Expansion of the mind and thoughts of possibilities of the universe and how it works is enjoyable to me and makes for interesting conversation - and is also an unusual occurrence when watching a movie (unless you have a fattie burning, of course).

Would I pay $2000 for the book? Not THIS book, but one that would be special to ME (a first edition, signed copy of some great novel I loved). Do I care? Sometimes - I had made the original suggestion about going to the book to find out what the hell was really going on in this flick. Or wouldn't it be grand to have the director around to ask what the fuck he was thinking with certain scenes! But alas, we will have to rely on our own interpretations...

Good flick all around, I think, scifan.
sausagemeat
Just watched this film, TBH, I put it off for a while because it was old and i assumed it would be shit, However.... The story was good and the lack of answers is really annoying.. The ending is like "WTF"

Would suggest that any movie fan should watch this..

Thanks for the links (youtube links still work)
pujal
I'm a big fan of old sci-fi novels, I've read em all and one thing they have in common is that the authors rarely try to explain away every question raised. I have almost no doubt in my mind that if/when someone does actually come here having read the book they won't have anymore solid of an answer of what happened to him and the Earth. It's better that way though, I think.

Just think how much stronger, imaginative and widespread faith in religion was before all these tv specials on 'discovering the truth'.

EDIT: and thanks for the new link Arnprior, I couldn't resist watching it again tongue.gif
repz
I keep trying to watch this movie but i keep falling asleep. There was way too many times that i feel asleep and woke up to find out the movie was removed. But its just... its... the dude is all alone and walking around and its so quiet... alll i think is PEACE AND QUIET at LAST!... so then i start snoring, lol.
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