http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0301380/



Religious nut documentary connecting the popularity of the Harry Potter books, and television shows like Buffy The Vampire Slayer, to Satanism, the Occult, and even to peaceful nature religions such as Wicca.

Here's the propaganda description:

Making Evil Look Innocent Does Witchcraft actually have power? If so what is its source? Does the Harry Potter series' presentation of Witchcraft make it any more acceptable just because it is packaged as "children's fantasy literature"? Hosts Robert S. McGee and Caryl Matrisciana, author and occult researcher, show Rowling's presentation of the following elements of Witchcraft: Mother Goddess, evolution, reincarnation, communing with the dead and spirit world, seasonal nature celebrations, sorcery, divination, spells, curses, meditation, occult symbology, black magic, demon possession, dark aspects of Witchcraft, and more. Viewers will see how young readers today, more than any other time in history, have an abundance of occult resources easily available to them and learn how to answer difficult questions and clearly explain the Harry Potter series to their children, grandchildren and concerned friends

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I am in my thirties... so I am not in the most impressionable of demographics...but....

when I saw my first Death Eater I knew what I wanted to be when when I grew up!

This documentary is right in that books/movies like Harry Potter promote an interest in magic and the occult... which is great! I got so interested I bought a Slytherin t shirt and have a gray/green house scarf as well. I love it... perhaps a little too much.

Kids should get into witchcraft and ritual magic if they are interested in it and have fun with it. Same with religion if they so choose to be religious. Just have fun kids.... because it is all just a bunch of fun that s meant to be taken lightly... like a book or a movie.

If I had a child who got interested in real witchcraft after seeing the Harry Potter movies I would be supportive. Same if my child watched the passion of the christ and became catholic. Same if my child watched a few TED talks and became an atheist. Support your children no matter what! Genuine family love, patience and support is the important thing. The variety of dogma makes no difference.

Just my thoughts. Thanks for the vid star. Love the corpse paint Harry picture.

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unfortunately, nothing new. Iran has been spouting this since the first book. except they blame the (evil, satanic, witchcraft practicing, and whatever else) jews.

Let me know if anybody can stomach watching it. I got as far as the so-called Christian "occult expert" claiming that "Potter", as in "Harry Potter", was the name for the mother goddess of Wicca. (Face Palm, shakes head)

Seems as though this expounds a bit on the clip from the "Jesus Camp" documentary.

Just another attempt to smoke and mirror people into forgetting about the snares of their particular dogma and the lack of legs it stands on.

So evolution, christmas, and easter are all elements of witchcraft?

Star could provide a full list of the paganism that can be found in the Judeo-Christian tradition.

Well Christmas and Easter have pagan origins, but Evolution? I think we need a new level in facepalming, anyone got a triple or maybe a quadruple is required?

Its ok I found some

LOL...That ain't no joke. Christianity itself is a hybrid-pagan religion.

Lol, triple facepalms. Thrice the magnitude of fail!

One thing that is not helping the fundies out is their sheer level of fail. They need a whole bunch of win... and far less fail.

my understanding

and it seems to be common place

but the origins of "Magic" seems to always point to the Fallen Angels and Especially the Raphiem , the dead ones, or Necromancers

If you are referring to the book of Enoch and the story of the Watchers, then you are correct. If you are talking about magic in general, then you are mistaken. Magic, just like religion and art date back to the very beginnings of humanity, in fact, they define what is human. Prior to this time mankind was humanoid in form but animal-like in nature.

I have no idea what you are talking abougt with "the dead ones" or Necromancers.

In the story of the Watchers, a group of Angels sent to watch over humanity, they do later fall, take wives for themselves and teach mankind knowledge they need to survive. What's interesting is that according to the lore, the human species would not have survived without Demons, since Demons helped establish society. God kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden and left them to fend for themselves. According to the Watchers mythos, the fallen angels taught humanity agriculture, astronomy, how to make weapons of war, taugh women how to seduce men with make-up, jewlery, and perfume, and also taught witchcraft. It's amazing how so many religious nuts fail to realize that according to these texts we would not have survived without demons!

Very interesting. I like the part when all the Nephalim start popping out and wreck the planet. A flood at that point was the only logical course of action.

The very notion that angels can shag human women and have babies should be enough to make everyone realize the Bible is mythology. I mean, C'mon. We have that all the time in Greek Mythology with the Gods shagging women and having half-god, half-human offspring.

Not mentioned once was sensible parenting,and having informative conversations with your child. This just doesn't seem to occur to these fundies

In fact, God simply decided to drown his kids instead of parent them. Not a very sensible parenting strategy.

You know, you can have a lot of purely sensible conversations with Christians... but absolutely none of those conversation involve angels mating with humans and then spawning world-destroying giants. There is a lot of reeeeeeally stupid shit in the bible... but even con men like Kent Hovind leave the ange-mating thing alone. Now THAT says a lot.



That is the irony of any religion. People use religion to fill in the blank spaces created by life's huge mysteries. They then go on to fill in the gaps that are left by their own religion. What an unfortunate waste of time, energy and effort.

If as much time was spent on THIS life as it was spent on the AFTERLIFE then you would see a lot more happy and successful people.

thats what you want to believe, with no understanding of the words in the bible, the Nephilim tribes, the Giants or Titans, the Sons of the Fallen Angels

"God" chose Moses cuz his bloodline was PURE, meaning, he fathers and Grandfathers, did not have Nephilim blood, i mean both through his parents and through his wifes parents

its also interesting to note, he/moses, MARRIED a/an Ethiopian women, Ethio or Ethi means blackface, while Pian means women, black faced woman, or a black woman, i cant really remember the breakdown of the word, just look it up

i bet you did no know this teaching, HE ALSO SAID TO MOSES, or the Angel Said, DO NOT LET CREATURES THAT DO NOT BOW/KNEEL BEFORE THE ARK INTO THE ARK

Now you have to ask yourself....................

What are these "CREATURES" That were Not created by "God"

he wanted to start over with humanity, and his creatures

but remember, those giants, went into caves and mountains and lived

look in the book, in the KJV, Aaron went into the Land, Aaron is Moses brother, Aarons Men reported Giants in the land, the "Land" im talking about is Israel, or Canaan, one of the two

im still studying, taking my time, there are over 100 THOUSAND to 200 THOUSAND mistakes in the bible, what i mean by mistakes, i mean, Someone didn't translate it right, someone screwed up accidentally, read and wrote the scrolls in the incorrect order, and we know that some scribes PURPOSEFULLY took out the names on purpose, and replaced with a name they knew, or just made the word completely up

REMEMBER IN THOSE DAYS YOU HAD TO WRITE THE BIBLE BY YOURSELF

90 PLUS PERCENT of the people back then could not read or right

Plus the "rich" people paid other people to write the bible or the scriptures down for them

once you understand this, you have to go into the bible with Strong's Concordance some people also call it Strong's Accordance

alot of people dont know about that book

ok im out,

go to youtube.com/nomed44 , thats my account, i have the playlist of the Scribes Actually come out in public and saying that there were and are still mistakes in the bible

its called Misquoting the bible, scriptures tainted, it should be on the top of the play list

any cya guys later

Riiiiight... but dude... its still mythology.

You could know every detail about your myth (even tho you could never claim to) and it would still be a myth. Not one single part of your myth corresponds with historical events. You seem to be pretty pleased with your knowledge on this myth... but its still a myth. Anyone can do a search in Answers in Genesis and spout endless details... but this only impresses those who are easily impressionable, stupid and/or deluded.

Hate to break it to you. You might think that knowing every possible detail about a myth somehow lends it credibility, but it only makes it a more detailed myth. A person is however more likely to fall for a lie or a fake story if it has rich details however, so if you are looking to trick people or further delude yourself then keep up the good work.

... and seriously.... no part of any of this sounds like a myth to you? Like, if Zeus did this stuff you call it a myth, but if it is your specific God then it is reality? How is it Zuesists are wrong and you are right? (and please leave out the circular logic, thanks).

What Ultraforge said.

Just because you may know the tales written between the bibles covers does not mean that it has any more validity or that it is any more real than it already isn't. You tell tales of angels mating with humans and giants being born. These tales have flowed down from Babylonian times, yet they still hold no grasp in reality.

Just because something has been written down does not make it true. For example

"I am ten feet tall with four arms, a head the size of a wrecking ball and I can sing in 14 different languages"

Now both you and I know that this is rubbish. This is the same as the bible, it is a collection of written stories, some inspiring, some not so, written by men that couldn't explain the world around them as they didn't have the tools to do so.

And now you are doing the same thing as them just by trying to push this off as fact and truth. I'll put forth my favorite question to you and if you do know the history of the bible then this should be an easy answer.

Is it more likely that men are decietful and power hungry so they put together all these fairy tales into one big collection and passed it off as "the divine word of god" in order to control the population who, at the time were tearing apart an empire, or that an all powerful, all knowing, supernatural being exists and loves us even though there is zero evidence for his existence?

You, sir have been duped like most of us were at one time or another. The only difference is that you want to study the different translations of your dupage.

i would like to point out two things.

first- you say that people had to write the bible themselves. then you say 90+ % of people couldn't read or write. you can proly see how this conflicts.

second- you did not write the bible yourself. from the early days of Christianity up until the
Wycliffe bible of the 1500's, (1570 i think) the common people didn't have bibles. (Wycliffe was burned alive for translating it to English) they were never written in the local language. your religious leaders told you what was in it and that was that. if the common person could read it, the power of the church would not be as strong.(even mass was done behind closed doors. you had to take their word for it.)

in the earliest days, they wanted to make a lot of bibles quickly. so they had illiterate slaves copy the symbols.(any idiot could do it. and they wont know what it says, so the power is preserved)
but they didn't realize there would be errors.

example: HE IS NOW HERE

now a spacing goof: HE IS NOWHERE

so the earliest copy's were full of errors. later copy's were based on these. you can study all you want, but you have no accurate reference.

plus the fact that its a work of fiction isn't going to help. you should take all the time and effort that you put into studying fairy tales and go to school and get a degree and find a cure for cancer. imagine if all the time, effort, devotion, money, and dedication put into studying the bible was used to better mankind (cure disease, feed hungry people, clean up pollution,) we would be a thousand years ahead of where we are now.

LMFAO @ silly Christers.

Witches used to fuck themselves with broom sticks that where covered in hallucinogenic salves, hence 'flying on broomsticks'.
Knowing that, it's strange to see little boys riding them. Other than that Harry Potter and the Pop-Occult revival can only be a good thing.

That's an often repeated "factoid" that is most likely wrong. As far as I know it stems from the witch trials, where "wiches" confessed to riding the handles of their brooms after smearing an ointment on them given to them by the devil.

I've even heard some Wiccans repeat this claim as well, but it simply itsn't true.

What is true is that brooms have played a vital roll in folkmagic, with the broom being used to sweep away bad luck and evil, to cleanse and purity, and even to bless with fertility. An old custom is for a just married couple to jump over a broom to bless them with fertility.

Placing a broom on the floor at a door is also believed to be able to tell a person who their enemies are. Anyone who is an enemy or who wishes evil on someone will not step over the broom in order to enter the room, or so the superstition goes.

For evil purposes, a broom that is waved over a sick person while they sleep is said to sweep away their remaining lifeforce. The individual is said to quickly weaken and die.

Why do we connect brooms with witches? It's quite easy. We connect women with witches and sincd women did most of the cleaning back in the day, then therefore the tools of women, brooms, cauldrons, are going to be associated with them.

It's ironic that the symbol of female repression was turned into a symbol of freedom for the figure of the witch. Mortal women slave by day sweeping with their brooms. Witches soar through the air with theirs!

So what is witchcraft? When the early christians came the Britain and "coverted" the people to "the one true god" - usually at the point of a sword, the people still consulted the Druids for solving social problems, healing, learning.
The Druids were branded as witches in perhaps the most obnoxious and far-reaching propaganda and lies that would even make Sarah Palin blush.
Check list:
Number of people killed by witchcraft - none, but millions by implication.
Number of people killed by christianity - 1,2 BILLION (average 1632 per day over 1650 years)
Furthermore, through the dogma of christianity and the fear and ignorance encouraged by it, the Black Death went on over around a decade to wipe out over 27% of Europe.
The Jews didn't suffer so much as thier code of cleanliness kept them both healthier, and as a target of suspicion.

Quote: "Wycliffe was burned alive for translating it (the Bible) to English"
It was always puzzling to many that God - whatever that may be - spoke to them in Latin exclusively.
My job (of many decades) is translating from the originals whenever they come to light, and what is in the "bible" leaves a lot to be desired and is why I turned my back on religion 25 years ago.
Apart from mistranslations and flights of fancy, some texts have actually been ADDED centuries after the bible was finalised.
The KJV is perhaps the worst of all, where the "corrections" (wasn't the Bible perfect then?) actually increased the errors.
There was a letter on YouTube where one of the faithful was crapping his trousers in excitement at having recieved his new, reprinted KJ Bible, crowing "I'g looking at it now - and ALL the mistakes have been corrected". This written by the SAME guy who, 6 months earlier, was shouting "There are NO mistakes in the Bible"