peggirl
Jul 22 2009, 04:20 AM

The new Hells Kitchen wow what an opener. You have an amazing chef a bunch of 16 Asses (donkeys) who think they know how to cook. It is full of telling people off a lot of mouthing off and of course the piece to resistance Mr Gordon Ramsay. It was a mind blowing 2hour episode that would get you thinking what would happen next.
Louie was expelled from the kitchen by Ramsey in the fist night Hells Kitchen opened for screwing up so much lamb. So Robert from the last season was in the dining room with his wife and Mr Ramsey went to him after shutting down the kitchen 1h and 30 min into service because of lousy take on orders and Ramsay's vain was popping out on his neck. He suggested to Robert about coming back for another try and as Robert shook his hand with joy in the smile on his face. His wife cried into her napkin and shook Gordon's hand.
So Robert is back and the first person during the first hour to go home is Joseph and Malinda off the red team who got expelled for messing up 10 spaghetti appetizers. That's a lot of noodles, Robert is sent to the red team with the ladies.
Hour 2.
First off Ramsey tears a strip off the cooks for such a poor service the night before. Then it was time for task #2 which consist of getting shrimp ready for that nights service. Again it was men against the women. The men rain supreme again with stripping and cleaning 45 shrimp with the women close behind with 44.( By 1 they were not happy). The men get a sea food dinner with the boss and desert with while the women get to smell like shrimp. So but the main part of the hour is that Joseph this guy thinks he is going to go head to head with Ramsey by calling him a bitch and such during the elimination during the second hour. Joseph Takes off his jacket looks at Ramsey and says “ I ain't no Bitch” all I have to say is wow it takes a big man to say that. He even asks Gordon to step outside.
So tune in next week and i will let you know if they have it out or does Ramsey just tell him to "GTF OUT"
blaz3d
Jul 22 2009, 08:54 PM
good shows these! season 1 episode 4 at a place called moore place is in esher (near london uk) my company bought the place a year after filming lmao (gordon didnt do a very good job) its now thriving under the name esteem (most of the chelsea football team now drink there as its right on thier door step a certain mr joe cole lives across the road just about)
dadsarmy
Jul 22 2009, 09:03 PM
I tried catering in my youth and was treated like shit in the kitchen,i ended up beating the shit out of some wanker who was talking to me like Gordon Ramsay,needless to say i told them to shove their shit job,i cannot believe that gobshite cunt Ramsay hasn't gotten his teeth kicked out by now,my missis was a bit worried about me shouting at the screen,kill the cunt ,knock him out lol,the best season yet,i prey that this time some one will do what most of the uk want to do to that tosser.
blaz3d
Jul 22 2009, 09:16 PM
QUOTE(dadsarmy @ Jul 22 2009, 08:39 PM)

I tried catering in my youth and was treated like shit in the kitchen,i ended up beating the shit out of some wanker who was talking to me like Gordon Ramsay,needless to say i told them to shove their shit job,i cannot believe that gobshite cunt Ramsay hasn't gotten his teeth kicked out by now,my missis was a bit worried about me shouting at the screen,kill the cunt ,knock him out lol,the best season yet,i prey that this time some one will do what most of the uk want to do to that tosser.
i see ur point lol i have a very strong background in hospitality i have worked in kitchens etc, what dismays me is the filth some of these chefs work in and to be honest if i was walking into them i would hit the roof to, i mean come on it goes to show that the local heath and enviroment agencies are absolutly shit! i wouldnt be just worried about the customers health i would be worried about my own! he is bloody brave eating the meals when he first walks in then goes behind the sences and sees the filth ! he does go way over the top sometimes i do agree a good kick in the u no whats would probably sort that!
Truthiness
Jul 22 2009, 09:33 PM
I think it's a great show. Ramsay tells it like it is, and gives very good advice every time.
Hogget
Jul 22 2009, 09:52 PM
I've grown to like this show less and less. Since Kitchen nightmares + Hell's kitchen went to the US I think they have lost a lot of charm and humour the shows had. It's now like 99% about Ramsey shouting at people and major mishaps. In the last season of Hell's Kitchen I thought all the chefs were terrible cooks until the final 1/2. It seems they pick people with cooking experience but no idea how to cook. Like I'm not a great cook but surely things like how to cook rice/paste/meat are pretty fundamental. I much prefer shows with people with talent or people who learn as they go along. I thought the last season of hell's kitchen was pretty poor, and it's very hard to create drama out of nothing. While it's funny to see people have an outburst now and again, they lose all sense of entertainment value when it's just a constant factor in the show.
The constant dramatic voiceover, and accounts of what happened in the last 5 seconds of the show are too much. Saying that I'll prolly watch the whole series, I just think it could do a revamp. If they made it about a good chef teaching chefs who want to learn not just talk crap about how good they are and then not being able to cook chicken. I think the show would be alot better that way, than it's current form.
peggirl
Jul 22 2009, 11:07 PM
QUOTE(Hogget @ Jul 22 2009, 01:28 PM)

I've grown to like this show less and less. Since Kitchen nightmares + Hell's kitchen went to the US I think they have lost a lot of charm and humour the shows had. It's now like 99% about Ramsey shouting at people and major mishaps. In the last season of Hell's Kitchen I thought all the chefs were terrible cooks until the final 1/2. It seems they pick people with cooking experience but no idea how to cook. Like I'm not a great cook but surely things like how to cook rice/paste/meat are pretty fundamental. I much prefer shows with people with talent or people who learn as they go along. I thought the last season of hell's kitchen was pretty poor, and it's very hard to create drama out of nothing. While it's funny to see people have an outburst now and again, they lose all sense of entertainment value when it's just a constant factor in the show.
The constant dramatic voiceover, and accounts of what happened in the last 5 seconds of the show are too much. Saying that I'll prolly watch the whole series, I just think it could do a revamp. If they made it about a good chef teaching chefs who want to learn not just talk crap about how good they are and then not being able to cook chicken. I think the show would be alot better that way, than it's current form.
I agree with you. But me myself am a big fan there is no one that could tell me different, everyone has there own opinions about TV shows but me myself would cut off a leg to meet the man who is an amazing chef and a sarcastic prick and a big one. But thats me i guess you could say i am a little obsessed with him and his work. To your comment about a chef teaching other chefs the way to cook and such i would have to say yes i do agree but the thing is Ramsay is the type of man yes he does show them yes he does teach but he has his own unique way to do it.

Peggs
Kontraband
Jul 23 2009, 09:26 PM
Fox has ruined this show. I was very disappointed with this seasons "Hells Kitchen" if you can call it that. Not only is there almost 0 focus on the food now they have dramatized it to an extreme level.
peggirl
Jul 24 2009, 04:10 PM
QUOTE(Kontraband @ Jul 23 2009, 01:02 PM)

Fox has ruined this show. I was very disappointed with this seasons "Hells Kitchen" if you can call it that. Not only is there almost 0 focus on the food now they have dramatized it to an extreme level.
Yes i agree with you on the aspect of all the focus taken away from the cooking.
gibbersome
Jul 24 2009, 05:12 PM
QUOTE(Kontraband @ Jul 23 2009, 08:02 PM)

Fox has ruined this show. I was very disappointed with this seasons "Hells Kitchen" if you can call it that. Not only is there almost 0 focus on the food now they have dramatized it to an extreme level.
Top Chef >> Hell's Kitchen.
bardsinister
Jul 24 2009, 08:07 PM
I was so disappointed with this new season of HK. Where did Fox find these rage-a-holic donkeys?
Robert did nothing to earn a second chance. I am glad to see Heather as the red team's sous chef.
RaggedVixen
Jul 24 2009, 09:42 PM
Hell's Kitchen has become the 'Maury' cooking show, with trailer trash contestants and potty-mouth 'master chef' Ramsey. I just hope the cameras are rolling when he gives himself a stroke. After having been treated to the amazing MasterChef Australia, going back to Hell's Kitchen is like moving from a mansion to the Projects. One wonders just how much money Gordon Ramsey needs! How long will he be allowed to continue to milk this goat?
Wtiberon
Jul 25 2009, 05:04 PM
QUOTE(Hogget @ Jul 22 2009, 04:28 PM)

I've grown to like this show less and less. Since Kitchen nightmares + Hell's kitchen went to the US I think they have lost a lot of charm and humour the shows had. It's now like 99% about Ramsey shouting at people and major mishaps. In the last season of Hell's Kitchen I thought all the chefs were terrible cooks until the final 1/2. It seems they pick people with cooking experience but no idea how to cook.
Well what happens in the first part of the show is they have to get used to the recipes. Chef Ramsey doesn't show them how to cook any of the dishes, they have to figure it out, in what little time they have, using the recipe book and working together as a team. Other reasons we see talented and experienced chefs looking like they can't cook is a combination of sleep deprivation, extreme stress, miscommunication.
Of course there are wannabe chefs on the show. I never understood why at first since I didn't pick up the show until the second season but in the first season he makes the claim he can turn anyone into a chef. So the show is suppose to emphasize talent, potential and drive rather than experience.
A lot of people like to compare the chefs of Top Chef to Hell's Kitchen Chefs and you just can't do that. Top Chef is just a series of challenges where they have to cook for only a handful of people. Hells Kitchen has a component of the show where they do Top Chef like challenges and you never see the chefs screwing up during that.
Its the second component of Hell's Kitchen that really causes the drama, the line service. Its tough to relate until you actually go through it but cooking on the line is probably the most stressful job I ever had and I was an Airborne Ranger at one time. I guarantee you put the Cooks of Top Chef through Hells Kitchen and they have the exact same experience.
bardsinister
Jul 26 2009, 10:28 AM
Wtiburon, I agree with many of the points you raised. You cannot compare the challenges presented to the Hell's Kitchen and Top Chef contestants, because they involve different skill sets. Top Chef includes very few challenges which require cooking on a hot line, even though from the job descriptions many of the contestants offer, they must have some line experience. On the other hand, Hell's Kitchen, IIRC, has never cast contestants who have worked for Boulud or at Le Cirque. Jen, who took the spaghetti out of the bin, did work for Morimoto as a pastry chef, but I get the sense the most of the HK contestants could not do well with many of the TC challenges.
My disappointment in Hell's Kitchen is how the quality of the show has declined since the first season, because Fox seems to be making casting and production decisions to emphasize drama rather than cooking. I loved the first few seasons, where we got to see much more of Gordon instructing the contestants on techniques during the challenges, and there was far less yelling involved--particularly by the contestants. I am cynical, but I think that was a deliberate casting decision
While I understand that the HK contestants only get the recipes the day before the first dinner service, I do not understand how you could apply to appear on HK, get cast for the show, and not start immediately reading every Ramsay recipe you can get your hands on and practicing to make a proper risotto, Beef Wellington, and chocolate fondant. Gordon changes the menu a bit each year, but there is always a risotto, a scallop appetizer, some sort of meat en croute, etc. The UK station that airs/aired The F Word has uploaded videos cooking many of these recipes online, and I did not need to use a proxy server to watch them. It just seems to me that production for HK is deliberately casting almost half of the contestants with people who do not have the drive or ambition to become serious contenders, and who do not see how getting to cook in a Ramsay kitchen is a wonderful learning opportunity.
Fox advertised this season as having the best competitors yet. I'm not buying it. It will be interesting to see Season 2's winner, Heather, as sous chef for the red team. She was probably told she was not permitted to step in and give too much advice. Otherwise, I have no explanation for why Lovely chose to bake over the fondants before dinner service started. The molten chocolate center is the whole point of that dessert.
celesteblue
Jul 29 2009, 03:33 AM
OMG tonights episode was a wild ride!
gibbersome
Jul 29 2009, 04:12 PM
QUOTE(celesteblue @ Jul 29 2009, 02:09 AM)

OMG tonights episode was a wild ride!
One of the other things that makes Hell's Kitchen a farce is the fate of the previous winners.
Season 1: Michael Wray. He had a chance to either have his own restaurant or work with Gordon Ramsay in a Ramsay restaurant. Michael Wray didn't choose either. He struck it out on his own and started selling his own knives .
Season 2: Heather West was only given a senior chef position after her win, but no longer works at Terra Rossa.
Season 3: Won the prize of head chef at Green Valley Ranch's Terra Verde, but no longer works there. He does have an executive chef position at another restaurant though.
Season 4: Although promised the position of executive chef at the new Gordon Ramsay at the London West Hollywood restaurant, Machamer, as the winning contestant, was instead given the position of senior chef under executive chef Andy Cook. She now works as a executive sous chef at London West Hollywood.
Season 5: Danny Veltri, verdict is still out, but I think he was given the option and chose to accept the $250,000 cash prize.
The cash prize option definitely makes more sense than offering the chefs executive chef positions which don't pan out. Interestingly, Top Chef only offers $100,000 to its winner, they should probably up this number and have a consolation $50,000 prize for the runner up.
peggirl
Jul 29 2009, 11:10 PM
QUOTE(celesteblue @ Jul 28 2009, 07:09 PM)

OMG tonights episode was a wild ride!
I did not see it

Never invite friends in town when there is good tv on. Got good drink on for about 10h but still i missed it
bobwadas
Aug 19 2009, 12:31 AM
You do not belittle people the way he does..tough love..thats crap..pure ignorance... His mother should be ashamed that not only does he act that way..but in public...
Hey Chef...YOUR MOM AND ALCOHOLIC DAD OBVIOSLY GAVE YOU ZERO UPBRINGING..
FUNNY HE QUIT A COOKING JOB BECAUSE HE WAS PICKED ON BY A BULLY..
SO NOW HE HAS A CHANCE TO BE THE BULLY...AND HE HAS SHOWN HE NEEDS PEOPLE TO RUN TO HIS RESCUE WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO CALL HIM OUT
YOU DONT CALL A WOMAN A "FAT PIG"...HES A JERK
WATCH A PENN AND TELLER EPISODE CALLED "THE BEST"
Skamp
Aug 19 2009, 12:42 AM
QUOTE(bobwadas @ Aug 19 2009, 12:19 AM)

You do not belittle people the way he does..tough love..thats crap..pure ignorance... His mother should be ashamed that not only does he act that way..but in public...
Go into any top kitchen on the planet and you'll see head chefs act a whole lot worse than Ramsey does if there underlings fuck up just a tiny bit,it's the nature of the beast.
bobwadas
Aug 19 2009, 02:42 AM
Well, sorry to disappoint you...but I live in Chicago where there are many great chefs...My best friends family actually owns a main staple here and we have been in the kitchens of most of the top places..
I have never ever seen any head chef treat his subordinates like Chef Bully//
Its not the nature of the beast...NO CHEF WOULD EVER, EVER, EVER YELL LOUD ENOUGH FOR THE GUESTS TO HEAR !
Hogget
Aug 20 2009, 05:23 AM
I really think ramsey has lost it in general over the past 1-2 years. His reactions in this season are ridiculously over the top, and are only getting worse. There are times when you could see how it could happen. Other times, it's just like what the hell...
I don't get why on earth he gave Robert a second chance either, like I believe everyone has the right to make their own choices and I don't judge anyone but in the last season he had a heart condition and embarrassingly couldn't go on a lot of the rewards. He didn't seem to mind, which is far enough but he comes back for this season looking even heavier than before and he has another medical problem caused by his weight. He needs to stop focusing on becoming a chef and start focusing on living past 40.
zaarco
Sep 2 2009, 03:27 AM
Arg38
Sep 2 2009, 03:29 AM
DAK5
Sep 15 2009, 10:52 AM
Love him or hate him, Gordon Ramsay is a tallented chef and resturanteur and has been awarded over 16 Michelin Stars, holding three at once.
He trained under the likes of Marco Pierre White, Albert Roux, Guy Savoy and Joël Robuchon.
He didn't gain all hes sucsess and Michelin Stars by handing hes staff pink I love you cards and skipping around smiling like an idiot, being an arrogant, nasty cunt is the fucking nature of the beast and it produces results!
If you want to see fake ass "TV" chefs talk shit and smile watch Top Chef.
I admire Chef Ramsay, hes wealth and sucsess speak for itself.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!
Truthiness
Sep 15 2009, 10:20 PM
I totally agree.
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