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Uncle B


Rafa Benitez used a press conference today to say what everyone else has been dying to say for ages - that Alex Ferguson gets away with saying what he wants with no punishment from the FA.

It comes after Ferguson came out and said Liverpool will cock up somewhere down the line and not win the league; this clearly infuriated Rafa who used today's press conference to have a go back at the Man Utd manager laugh.gif

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Gotta quote this bit:

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Or maybe the other option. Will be Mr Ferguson organising the fixtures and everything in his office and sending to us and everybody will know and no-one can complain. So simple.


10/10 for Rafa, U just went up a few notches in my book!
trifke

click here for Rafa rant

...before i say anything please note that Man Utd have played all the "big three" away from home in the first half of the season,and that has not happend in the (new) premier league history...

...now im going to get serious,the reason SIR Alex Ferguson is pissed off regarding the schedlue of the games is as follows, after every champions league game we played we had an away game in the premiership,hence the complaint from Fergie...

...i honestly dont know why Rafa is still a manager...
Uncle B
QUOTE(trifke @ Jan 10 2009, 02:00 AM) *
...i honestly dont know why Rafa is still a manager...


coz he won the Champions League m8, u don't sack sum1 after that.

QUOTE(trifke @ Jan 10 2009, 02:00 AM) *
...before i say anything please note that Man Utd have played all the "big three" away from home in the first half of the season,and that has not happend in the (new) premier league history...


u're starting to sound like Fergie laugh.gif

their all against u!
trifke
QUOTE(Uncle B @ Jan 10 2009, 02:08 AM) *
coz he won the Champions League m8, u don't sack sum1 after that.


...that was 3 years ago, what have the scoursers won since then,shit-all...
Amar
rafs is spot on

brilliant interview and the great part of it is. everything he said was a FACT and not bull which fergy meets up

just watch it as he backs up his every claim with FACTS....fergy is above the law and has been getting away with murder for years....he gets things going his way but still moans and gets even more special treatment

well done rafa
trifke

...if only Rafa concentrated more on getting his tactics right for the Stoke game and less on goings on at United maybe you would have won today,i mean whats the point of playing a 5-man midfield with a lone striker up front against a team in the relegation zone?...
movieman
rafa is 100% right with what he said

however the timing is not good it makes him look scared and shows fergie is under his skin

also trifke your right he should be worrying about his team

wtf is he doing leaving torres and keane on the bench..one of them ok but WTF.gif
trifke
QUOTE(movieman @ Jan 10 2009, 09:26 PM) *
however the timing is not good it makes him look scared and shows fergie is under his skin


...i understand passion and love for the game (i have plenty of both),im gona have to agree with you on that one MM,there is absolutely no need for Rafa to add pressure to his own team before a game,regardles of what anyone says that is just bad managment,im used to supporting the club everyone loves to hate but you all have to admit Fergie is a master tactician,his comments had the desired effect...
colnechris
Rafa and liverpool seem to be starting to feel the pressure it seems. that was 1 of the funniest things i have ever heard from a football manager. he just went on spurtin more and more crap.

the mans a complete joke, he cant ever hope to come close to fergie, which he probabaly knows, hes barely improved liverpool at all since houlier was in charge, 1 champions league title ( and whoever says you cant sack a manager who wins the champions league, erm real madrid and barcalona have done it recently so you can really ) a manager who fails at everything else and has just 2 major accomplishments in 4 years should of been sacked long ago in this day and age.

no if we can win today against chelsea, which wont be easy, we will be in a very good position, games in hand that if we win we will be top, for the first time this season we are in control of our own destiny as far as the title goes, and thats how we like it, things are gonna be hotting up and its time for liverpool and there hilarious gimp of a manager to step up or step back n let the united and chelsea get on with things.

and as for rafa stating hard facts? yeh course, because fergies never been punished, he picked a few examples out, forgeting to mention any of liverpools lucky escapes conveniently of course.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...n-Football.html

yes fergie will go out of his way to wind other managers up, but hey, 10 titles 2 champions leagues, 5 fa cups, 2 league cups and a world club championship to me say its certainly a great attribute fergies got and it certainly works because Keegan, Wenger, Mourinho and now rafa have all cracked.

in all honesty fergies probably just laughing at Rafa, and thinking he has far more important things to be dealing with, like a football match, being a football manager of course.

and when i say hes hilarious, i in no way mean like Claudio ranierie hilarious, just a man making himself look like a complete tithead hilarious.
Amar
QUOTE(colnechris @ Jan 11 2009, 07:01 AM) *
Rafa and liverpool seem to be starting to feel the pressure it seems. that was 1 of the funniest things i have ever heard from a football manager. he just went on spurtin more and more crap.

the mans a complete joke, he cant ever hope to come close to fergie, which he probabaly knows, hes barely improved liverpool at all since houlier was in charge, 1 champions league title ( and whoever says you cant sack a manager who wins the champions league, erm real madrid and barcalona have done it recently so you can really ) a manager who fails at everything else and has just 2 major accomplishments in 4 years should of been sacked long ago in this day and age.

no if we can win today against chelsea, which wont be easy, we will be in a very good position, games in hand that if we win we will be top, for the first time this season we are in control of our own destiny as far as the title goes, and thats how we like it, things are gonna be hotting up and its time for liverpool and there hilarious gimp of a manager to step up or step back n let the united and chelsea get on with things.

and as for rafa stating hard facts? yeh course, because fergies never been punished, he picked a few examples out, forgeting to mention any of liverpools lucky escapes conveniently of course.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...n-Football.html

yes fergie will go out of his way to wind other managers up, but hey, 10 titles 2 champions leagues, 5 fa cups, 2 league cups and a world club championship to me say its certainly a great attribute fergies got and it certainly works because Keegan, Wenger, Mourinho and now rafa have all cracked.

in all honesty fergies probably just laughing at Rafa, and thinking he has far more important things to be dealing with, like a football match, being a football manager of course.

and when i say hes hilarious, i in no way mean like Claudio ranierie hilarious, just a man making himself look like a complete tithead hilarious.


first of all, if you really do think rafa aint improved the team much then you are clueless....

obviously you didnt understand his interview because it was 100 percent correct but to sum it up, i would be typing a article similar to this

"I’ve read and heard a few commentators refer to Rafa Benitez’ comments about Sir Alex Ferguson yesterday as the Liverpool manager’s ‘Keegan moment.’ Nothing could be further from the truth.

Back in the 1995/96 season, Keegan's side looked set to finally land the title after opening up a 12-point gap at the top of the table, and the Newcastle coach famously lost control of his emotions.

Rafa Benitez is a coach who is methodical in his approach to the game, and yesterday was no different. He walked in to that press conference fully prepared for what he was about to say. He produced a sheet of paper from which he read a series of longstanding complaints about Ferguson and, in particular, his attitude to referees and gripes about the fixture list; Rafa was calm and assured in his delivery.

Some have said that Benitez should not have let Ferguson get under his skin, yet this was not a man flailing wildly at his adversary, but a man in control who had prepared the terrain upon which he was about to do battle: so typically Rafa.


So why did he do it?

Well, Sir Alex Ferguson had openly criticised the Liverpool players in midweek. With Liverpool seven points in front of third-placed United, who have two games in hand, Ferguson stated that Liverpool’s inexperience will cost them. “There's no doubt in the second half of the season they will get nervous,” said the United manager.

Sir Alex was inferring that he and his players are more experienced and mentally tougher than the Liverpool players. From Rafa’s point of view, no manager has the right to insult his player’s capabilities and he was right to come out and defend them. For the sake of the dressing room, it was important that he is seen to be standing up for his team.

Remember, this was not an instant reaction to Ferguson’s comments. Benitez had bided his time and spoken with his dressing room. He had ensured that his players were totally unfazed by what the United boss had said about them, fully assessed the situation – as he always does – and concluded that to have not reacted would have been seen as a loss of authority.



And because of that, what Benitez cannot afford to do is be seen to agree with Ferguson – as Wenger did recently over the football calendar – because the United boss will be seen as leading the agenda, as the man in control who can say what he wants - when he wants; with his contemporaries following his lead. Rather than agreeing with Ferguson, Benitez made the United coach sound like a whinger: Rafa said “Then he (Ferguson) was talking about the fixtures. Two years ago we were playing a lot of early kick-offs away on Saturdays when United were playing on Sundays. And we didn't say anything.


"Now he is complaining about everything, that everybody is against United. But the second half of the season will see them playing at home against all the teams at the top of the table, it is a fantastic advantage.


"But at Christmas, United played on the 29th and the rest of the teams played on the 28th. We were away against Newcastle two days after playing Bolton. They were playing about 40 hours later, they were not complaining then.”


And when it came down to United’s treatment of referees, Benitez was letting it be known that not only do other managers share his opinions, but that this is a matter he has been prepared to tackle head on with the FA : as he did at the meeting in Manchester which he referred to yesterday. Benitez said “You can see every single week how they put (referees) under pressure, we know this. We have seen it before. We have seen players sent off at Old Trafford and we do not see our opponents sent off. It is part of the game. But to complain and to always have an advantage is not fair.”

"We had a meeting in Manchester with managers and FA about the Respect campaign. And I was very clear, forget the campaign because Mr Ferguson was killing the referees, killing Mr Atkinson, killing Mr Hackett.”

Ferguson had not got under his skin; Rafa was sending a message to the most important people of all: his players in the dressing room, letting them know that he is there to stand up for them and will put himself in the firing line if need be. All of which leads on to the final reason why he did it.


He has deflected the attention from his players and turned it upon himself. The focus no longer on the Liverpool dressing room and Ferguson’s opinion of it; it is now all about what Rafa Benitez thinks of Alex Ferguson.


Kenny Dalglish urged Liverpool “to forget about these mind games and concentrate solely on what's going on around their own club.” But, in stepping in to the firing line, Benitez had ensured that if Liverpool slip up at Stoke in the wake of Ferguson’s comments, it will be all about Benitez and less about his players. And if they win? Well then Rafa got it spot on, and the message to Ferguson is unequivocal: 'say what you like about us, we know what we’re doing.'


I have also read that this was most out of character for Rafa Benitez. Not so.
Because, aside from this being so ‘very Rafa’ to have delivered his comments armed with his meticulously researched arguments laid out in bullet points on an A4 sheet of paper, the Liverpool coach has done this before.


Following a successful title winning season at Valencia, his players felt the full force of his wrath in a disappointing second season at the club. And when Valencia lifted the La Liga title the following year, Benítez confronted Jesus Garcia Pitarch, the club's director of sport, over control of new signings and the club's failure to reinforce the squad with the players he wanted – and Benitez told the world, in no uncertain terms, what he thought of the men in suits at the Mestalla.


In England too, Benitez has previous form. Remember when he stood up to Mourinho? After their first group match ended in another goalless draw in September 2005, the Liverpool manager said the following month: "To me, Arsenal played much better football two or three years ago. They won matches and were exciting to watch. Barcelona and Milan too. They create excitement so how can you say Chelsea are the best in the world?" He did not shy away from telling Mourinho that his success was down to Abramovich’s millions either.

The point is, unlike Keegan before him, Rafa Benitez is not some novice manager confronted with a situation like this for the first time in his career. When Ferguson tries to attack someone for their inexperience, he would do well to remember that there is a world outside the Premier League and I would wager that two Spanish league titles and a Champions League trophy have taught Benitez a thing or two about coping with pressure.

Ferguson has found himself a new adversary: he knows he is in a fight for the title race now, and I fully expect the United coach to react; while Benitez, who has seen off the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona in the past, will put his piece of paper back in his pocket, and smile whenever the word ‘Fergie’ gets a mention over the next few weeks.

I wonder which one of them is really under the skin of the other...!

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Seems to me united fans are saying rafa is cracking while most of liverpool and others saying he is spot on. united are SCARED which is why fergy tried to play these mind games which rafa simply replied with FACTS to make fergy a laughing stock once again. old red nose will probably reply today and make himself look foolish
colnechris
the spanish league is nothing compared to the premier league in terms of pressure, and to say rafas right when i gave you some real hard facts, unlike rafa goes to show how stupid a rant the guy made.

course united fans, and fans of every other club think hes cracked, we watched it in front of our very own eyes, worse than keegan? time will tell.

as for united being scared....you are joking i hope, if what you state is true, united have been scared every year, cos fergies used mind games for years, but as i stated, why is it fergies much much more successful, considering he is scared

if liverpool fans actually believe the garbage rafa spurted, liverpool fans are more deluded than people thought ( and you there very deluded to start with, its our year this year 18 times in a row shows that ) and my opinion of them as football fans is even lower.

far as im concerned, rafas a joke, liverpools a joke and your title challange will once again be 1 big joke same as every single season since 1990.

fergie will be more concerned about playing chelsea today than what some failure of a manager ( far as english football goes he is ) has to say, considering he used not a single true fact, just a few convenient half truths.
Trampant
Seriously tho what is the point of having a respect campian when Rooney tells the ref to fuck off EVERY WEEK and gets away with it including todays game against Chavs

Rafa is spot on
colnechris
how can half truths and made up stuff make someone spot on?

explain this scouse logic to the rest of the world, its baffling.

oh and why if fergie never gets punished is he the only manaher this season to recieve a touchline ban, and also recieved the biggest fine, double that olf any other manager...

funny how people who bullshit always get proved wrong isnt it.
Trampant
QUOTE(colnechris @ Jan 11 2009, 06:15 PM) *
how can half truths and made up stuff make someone spot on?

explain this scouse logic to the rest of the world, its baffling.

oh and why if fergie never gets punished is he the only manaher this season to recieve a touchline ban, and also recieved the biggest fine, double that olf any other manager...

funny how people who bullshit always get proved wrong isnt it.



Former Premier League referee Graham Poll agrees that Sir Alex Ferguson receives lenient treatment from the Football Association.

Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez launched an astonishing attack on his Manchester United counterpart on Friday.

Benitez claimed Ferguson does not get punished sufficiently for his sometimes outspoken criticism of match officials.

Poll enjoyed a good relationship with Ferguson during his time as a referee but believes the Scot does get preferential treatment from FA disciplinary chiefs.

"Rafa Benitez has articulated what referees have been thinking for years - that Sir Alex Ferguson can say what he wants about them and the FA will allow him to get away with it," Poll told the Daily Mail.

"The authorities could point to Ferguson's two-match ban imposed earlier this season as proof that he is not out of reach of their disciplinary department, but that was for marching onto the field after the 4-3 win over Hull and for comments made directly to the referee, Mike Dean, who in reporting the misconduct forced the FA's hand."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11669_4773786,00.html

I guess the refs are against Utd aswell?
colnechris
u mean grahem poll, the same ref who doesnt know 2 yellows = a red not 3, the same grahem poll who is by far 1 of the worst refs in the world in proffesional football, with constant incorrect decisions, gutless calls and the inability to depict what type of ganme hes in charge of ( ie derby matches, cards flying all over the place )

howard webb has taking over that role but anything grahem pol says should be ignored, the guys a tool, any manager and fan in football will tell you that.

also it was in the daily mail, very anti united newspaper, like the sun and mirror.

if you want a refs opinion ask a decent 1, tho you will struggle to find 1 who can be called decent.
Amar
QUOTE(colnechris @ Jan 11 2009, 06:15 PM) *
how can half truths and made up stuff make someone spot on?

explain this scouse logic to the rest of the world, its baffling.

oh and why if fergie never gets punished is he the only manaher this season to recieve a touchline ban, and also recieved the biggest fine, double that olf any other manager...

funny how people who bullshit always get proved wrong isnt it.



again you prove you are wrong

the fa WERE FORCED to do punishments but when somethin a ref doesnt report happens, the fa do nothing against united but the others they will punish.

maybe we should elt fergy do the fixture list like rafa said, then he would stop whining but still it probably wont stop him. fact is fergy is a tyrant who gets away with so much crap that nobody else does. rafa is the first man in a long time to stand up to him and you united fans cant handle that and just are posting crap now.

haha further proof to back up benitez claim is rooney today

he told the ref and assistant ref to "f off" 4 times and nothing happened to him. just pure pathetic behaviour from these refs and fa allowing rooney and united getting away with so much crap

a disgrace of a club and fully warrant their scum tag
colnechris
and again more rubbish from someone connected with liverpool

why is it only liverpool fans think what he said has any merit, yet everyone else thinks the guys simply lost it.

you seem to love the word fact, but im pretty sure you and many other scousers do not know the true meaning of the word.

it means unquestionably correct piece of information, which rafa did not state, not 1 thing he said was a fact.

just so you are aware, fergie is 1 of the most punished managers in the league, recieveing more fines and bans than most do, with harry redknapp and arsene wenger being 2 other highly disciplined managers.

you will note all 3 are extremely good managers in the england game, and aint affraid to challange the FA when they see fit. Disciplinery hearings are simply football courts, and EVERYONE has the right to challange any charges against them if they wish.

so what rafa is saying is because fergie dares to challange, its not fair on those who dont want to question the FA.

well top me thats down to personal choice, fergies a winner, he wants to win everything, from the egg n spoon race wi his grand kids to the champions league title and everything in between

seems rafas different doesnt it, more of an acceptor of things, something winners are not made of.

also note how fergie always gets 2 match bans, compared with the rest getting 1 match bans.

did rafa use the same people who scouted stoke to compile this misinformation and bullshit rant he gave or something. lol
colnechris
QUOTE(amarjahangir @ Jan 11 2009, 06:36 PM) *
again you prove you are wrong

the fa WERE FORCED to do punishments but when somethin a ref doesnt report happens, the fa do nothing against united but the others they will punish.

maybe we should elt fergy do the fixture list like rafa said, then he would stop whining but still it probably wont stop him. fact is fergy is a tyrant who gets away with so much crap that nobody else does. rafa is the first man in a long time to stand up to him and you united fans cant handle that and just are posting crap now.

haha further proof to back up benitez claim is rooney today

he told the ref and assistant ref to "f off" 4 times and nothing happened to him. just pure pathetic behaviour from these refs and fa allowing rooney and united getting away with so much crap

a disgrace of a club and fully warrant their scum tag



like how he disallowed 2 legit ronaldo goals awell, cos of course if he was on our side he wouldnt of done that.
Oh and several bad challanges from chelsea that should of got more than a yellow card... or perhaps the numerous handballs commited by chelsea that went un-noticed ( carragher like wouldnt you say )

how many more things you need me to prove you wrong on.

Rooneys just passionate and wants to win, the fact swearing is even critisised is stupid, the words appear in the english dictionary, and are therefore perfectly fine to say. Only stuck up christians and other religious fanatics have a problem with swearing, and football aint none of that crap.

and why isnt rafa demanding gerrard be punished for consistant diving? funny that isnt it.

i stick by the statement the guys a joke, plain and simple.
Amar
and rooney doesnt dive?

quit your bias CRAP. players get sent off saying saying f off to refs like earlier this season but rooney is the golden boy and nothing happens to him

united are just a joke of a club and are the scum of england like madrid are the scum of spain

no difference. countless times tapping up players eg robben..rvn...stamp and so on

let me guess you didnt see the evra handball

you are just a fickle and biased fan. i am wasting my time discussing football with a person who started supporting united since 99. i bet you are one of those north east fans from old trafford. (bet you dont even know what i mean...further proof you never been to a untied game and are a glory hunter)
colnechris
been a united fan since i was 2, and have been to plenty of games, living in manchester as a child and brought up in a family of die hards i would say yeh, i am a proper fan, who supports my team with all my heart.

and united scum? hmmm, funny how its liverpool seen as the scum from most.

and rooney golden boy, dear oh dear oh dear, think you better stop before you make even more of a fool of yourself.

you obviously like to foget what get=rrard gets away with, the true golden boy of the FA, the things he must do for the executives doeswnt bare thinking about, i mean a grown man ffs, on his knees servicing other men just to get off with a fine.

be careful calling something scum with no eveidence, murderers are scum, catch my drift..
Amar
QUOTE(colnechris @ Jan 11 2009, 07:44 PM) *
been a united fan since i was 2, and have been to plenty of games, living in manchester as a child and brought up in a family of die hards i would say yeh, i am a proper fan, who supports my team with all my heart.

and united scum? hmmm, funny how its liverpool seen as the scum from most.

and rooney golden boy, dear oh dear oh dear, think you better stop before you make even more of a fool of yourself.

you obviously like to foget what get=rrard gets away with, the true golden boy of the FA, the things he must do for the executives doeswnt bare thinking about, i mean a grown man ffs, on his knees servicing other men just to get off with a fine.

be careful calling something scum with no eveidence, murderers are scum, catch my drift..



you are a fucking COCK for bringing up that dreadful day.

i hope movieman see's this as on any other board that knows what you just said in your last line would ban you right away. you just proved you are pure scum with that comment. you are a disgrace to football fans and just a plain prick.

i bet you wouldnt have the balls to say that in public to my face or any other footballs fans face because you know you are well out of order.
colnechris
which dreadful day?

i stated the fact murderers are scum, not man utd.

if you think otherwise then u need to get your prioroties right.

and as far as saying it to your face, who the hell do you think you are, i would say what i want when i want to whoever i want. are you trying to threaten me over the internet. pathetic is the word that springs to mind.

and seeing as i have had many disagreements with opponents fans, especially liverpool am guessing your reffering to either hillsborough or heysal, which shows you complete lack of knowledge, knowing that neither wer liverpools fault, and caused by small minded fans, but thye fact you jumped at my comment claiming i had stated something different just goes to show how clueless you are. or maybe your just as small minded.

oh and wehy when i called gerrard scum you have a problem with it but its perfectly fine to call united that.

do we have double standards, are you another liverpool fan who thinks everyone is against them, and everything said about them is a dig about past events. maybe its the fact liverpool are obsessed with the past who knows.

Amar
dont try and talk yourself out of it

i know what you were implying and now you are bottling it. at least have the balls to admit it but wouldnt expect it from a 14 year old fan who has been supporting united since 99

you truly are a disgrace to football fans and even united fans would be ashamed of how you behave.

i am just going to ignore you from now on, you are a waste of space and dont deserve my time.

have a nice life
colnechris
paranoia is a terrible thing u moron.

im no disgrace to football, least i can get my facts straight unlike yourself and the retard you call a manager.

more than likely cos you know nothing about the 2 disastors your trying to make out i was refering to, not that there was any way it could of been anyone else, the plymouth goalkeeper, terrorists, or just plain old murderers but no, you decide its about liverpool, which says it all.

oh and just to show how stupid you actually are, if i was 14 and had been supporting united since 1999, thats would make me a fan of united for about 2/3rds of my life, so how exactly can you say thats wrong.

fact is im 21, and have been a united fan all my life, thru ups and downs, good times and bad, and i certainly dont need some stupid so called liverpool fan throwing a load of complete rubbish, claiming there facts and what ever else at me.
jimmy
hey cmon lads keep it civilized ffs, no need to go at each other like this..

this is a discussion forum and were all for you ranting on about footie but you gotta know when to draw the line wink.gif

btw my opinion is you f'n northerners are always causing trouble =P
Uncle B
QUOTE(jimmy @ Jan 12 2009, 10:48 AM) *
hey cmon lads keep it civilized ffs, no need to go at each other like this..


i agree, try and keep it good clean fun.

Anyways, in hindsight u'd have to say Rafa cocked up, the Scousers were very poor on Saturday, and I don't think Scolari's too happy about the timing coz all u did was to get Utd fired up.

Now I hate Fergie as much as the next man, but u gotta respect the Scottish git for what he's achieved, and although we may not agree with the way he goes about some of his business, u can't fault the fact that he know's when and how to get other managers wound up. On this occasion I'd say his timing was perfect.
trifke
...damm,this topic turned rather nasty rather quickly and unfortunately this one wont die down coz' Rafa and Fergie were at it again...

Fergie slams "ridiculous Rafa

Benitez queries Gill influence

...personaly i couldnt care less at goings on at liverpool,as long as we continue playing like that (against chelsea) we dont have to worry about anyone...

...and on a different matter all chelsea fans chanting "You should have died in the tunnel," at Cristiano Ronaldo, following the winger's car crash last week can fuck off and die machine gun.gif ...
kf1920
colnechris & amarjahangir can ye try to keep it civil, act like mature adults, cause i don't want this to turn nasty,

thanks
kf1920
colnechris
apologies from my end, things got a bit heated in the excitement of a great weekend.

will keep it civilised from now on.
movieman
ok this has gotten way out of hand

the
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be careful calling something scum with no eveidence, murderers are scum, catch my drift..


thats a low blow if i did catch your drift

but as you say you have apologised above so back to to the issue at hand....


man utd fans and liverpool fans are NEVER EVER GOING TO AGREE ON THIS MATTER.

from my prespective as i stated above

i think rafa is right in what he said fergie and man utd as a whole get away with murder

example: wayne rooney against chelsea was giving it the old f off to the ref and showing complete disrespect and gets away with it...this happens week in week out other clubs chelsea liverpool etc get penalised
example: mascherano getting sent off against utd WTF.gif

however i am not naive enough to think that we are robbed all the time, im well aware we get away with a lot...but the fact remains its no where near the amount utd get away with.

as for benitez he made himself look a right tit. first off he makes the statement puttin g himself and liverpool right under pressure...then we draw with stoke, whilst he leaves 50 million pounds worth of striker on bench (torres, keane) how does he expect to win with no striker?

now utd have the chance to go top before we play again this make benitez look even worse...it makes us look weak and shows fergie is under our skin

as for most people agree that fergies right? im afraid your misguided with that one biggrin.gif

anyway only time will tell how things will pan out
colnechris
i aint misguided lol, loads have dismissed rafa as being a nutter.

and the fact he had a go at david gill said it all, he is clueless.

the guys elected by other clubs into the FA

arsenal had a similar set up a few seasons back

chelsea and liverpool also have members on the FA boards.
blaz3d
a valid point and a point that needs to be addressed and im despratly trying to find the article in question is, rafa has also bemoaned fixture congestion im thinking maximum of 2 to 3 seasons ago,(any help0 in finding this would be accepted) seems to me rafa has let the pressure get to him as i understand he is under immense pressure to deliver success to anfield this rant makes me think of kevin keegan a few years ago does anyone remember this?

also every single season without fail fergie has been in trouble with the FA for one thing or another and i belive he holds the records for fines dished out against managers and to be honest half the things arsene wenger comes out with on a week to week basis needs looking at,

has anyone thought about recent events where mr gerrad was involved in an incident in a club and spent the night in the cells and now faces a poss 5 years in jail! if this guy is a role model god help the kids of today violence of in any shape or form should be punished to the maximum!

now say what u want about manchester united and bar an incident involving rooney spitting at a photographer and some tart out for cash accusing jonny evans of rape(come on back then he was 19 and looked more like a shirtlifter), man united players conduct themselves well (and before i get jumped on i agree on the pitch they can be right ****s but so can players form all the top sides) and in general the fans do to so this sniping and point scoring is somewhat pathetic and the previous arguements just rubber stamps perceptions of football fans as mindless foul mouthed idiots!
Trampant
QUOTE(blaz3d @ Jan 21 2009, 05:19 PM) *
a valid point and a point that needs to be addressed and im despratly trying to find the article in question is, rafa has also bemoaned fixture congestion im thinking maximum of 2 to 3 seasons ago,(any help0 in finding this would be accepted) seems to me rafa has let the pressure get to him as i understand he is under immense pressure to deliver success to anfield this rant makes me think of kevin keegan a few years ago does anyone remember this?

also every single season without fail fergie has been in trouble with the FA for one thing or another and i belive he holds the records for fines dished out against managers and to be honest half the things arsene wenger comes out with on a week to week basis needs looking at,

has anyone thought about recent events where mr gerrad was involved in an incident in a club and spent the night in the cells and now faces a poss 5 years in jail! if this guy is a role model god help the kids of today violence of in any shape or form should be punished to the maximum!

now say what u want about manchester united and bar an incident involving rooney spitting at a photographer and some tart out for cash accusing jonny evans of rape(come on back then he was 19 and looked more like a shirtlifter), man united players conduct themselves well (and before i get jumped on i agree on the pitch they can be right ****s but so can players form all the top sides) and in general the fans do to so this sniping and point scoring is somewhat pathetic and the previous arguements just rubber stamps perceptions of football fans as mindless foul mouthed idiots!


So Gerrard should be jailed for hitting a scum and Jonny walks free for raping and well fuck that granny fucker if he wasnt playing football he'd be dead already...
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